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    Gathering lockout still?

    I've had a persistent problem amongst all my gathering classes that still seems to perpetuate even after 1.19a.

    If I do activities that gain a lot of exp in a relatively short time, such as a leve run or using the new company acquired scrolls, after a certain exp gain point I can no longer complete a gathering action.

    In the case of fishing simply nothing will bite, regardless of which bait or lure I equip or where I target. Even though I was easily catching everything in one try just prior.
    In botany or mining, soon as I strike a point it fails and gives me no other attempts.

    The sudden inability to complete gathering actions remains for several hours, and I often get stuck failing leves or wasting resources. It's become extremely frustrating.

    I've always attributed this phenomenon with the hidden gathering fatigue system, but it was to my understanding that this was recently abolished. So why am I still penalized from continuing to level post patch?
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    Jinko Jinko
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    I thought they said the gathering fatigue was alleviated not abolished.

    Alleviated meaning reduced or made less severe, I'm sure that fatigue is still there to combat bots.
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    I have gathered for nearly four hours in a row one day, then another three a few hours later. Not a single fail in that time and it's the same for everyone in my linkshell. Fatigue has almost certainly been abolished.

    Are you using the appropriate gear for your rank, using the appropriate bait or lure, and are you fishing at a grade near your rank? It's not possible to gather at grades massively higher than you anymore, level and gear play a bigger role than they did before the patch.
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    It occurs after procuring a lot of experience points relatively quickly, not from slowly gaining a lot of items over a period of time. And yes, my character is geared properly and I am in the correct area for my level range.

    What happens is, I will start on my routine leve run. I will not miss any attempts, and pretty much have 100% success all the time. Say for instance, I use a company issued scroll and Sweat of Brow kicks off and I do the two available rank 40 leve cards for gathering in each city... Everything will be fine until I reach a certain threshold of experience points gained, then suddenly gathering shuts off.

    What was 100% success suddenly, and without warning, becomes 100% fail rate for that class. Changing areas, changing equipment around, changing classes does not alleviate it. And I'm forced to stop leveling gathering all together. I lose my scroll, and any GA, and whatever leve I was on. As it will not allow me to obtain the item in the half hour time to complete it, and also the expense of traveling out to the leve area.

    This has happened both prior and post of patch.

    I'm assuming it's some anti-bot measure secretly in place. But it really hurts me as a legitimate player. I don't have time to play gradually over a consistent period of time, so I make use of the casual player friendly methods put in place to try to keep up with the Jones' on the maybe one day a week I have free to play the game. But every time I do try to make use of it, this happens and its extremely frustrating. The lockout for me usually occurs after doing more than 5 gathering leves in a single day, which is less than the previous set allowance before the ticket system went into place.
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    Ive done nearly 200k sp in one sitting on miner and did not experience this at all. However it was over many many hours so perhaps the rate at which I was getting sp did not trigger this situation. Do you have the exp earned over time that this is triggered by any chance?
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    No, it's only if I do it all in one sitting. Once I do get locked out though I have to wait about a full day before I'm able to level again. Taking a break and coming back a few hours later doesn't reset it.
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    From the way you describe it it does sound like you're experiencing a nasty glitch. We have several gatheres in my linkshell, some high and some low, and none of them have experienced any form of fatigue or lock out.
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    Another member of my linkshell decided to use yesterday to try to accomplish an entire level of mining and after about 80% through he also got hit with the same exact lockout I experience. So I'm not just a raving loon I guess! Although I usually get locked out far earlier than he did.

    You may be right in it being a bug, I have absolutely no idea.
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    Aleczan Knighthill
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    I mined non-stop and got 1 and a half level of Mining yesterday. Would love to try to test it with more amount of EXP but couldn't stay awake. Had no problem with plowing through a whole level. But my Mining was just 22. Maybe too low and require too few EXP to level up comparing to your friend.

    Anyway, I got to 23, and filled my EXP bar to about half (14XXX/25000). So that's about 36,000 EXP or 40,000 EXP at max. (I can't remember where on LV 22 I started.)

    Had no problem about getting item or successful dig.
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    Quesse Mithril
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    I too have mined way past the previous fatigue limit. But when SE says 'alleviated' they certainly mean there is still a limit not that it has been removed.
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