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  1. #11
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Once I get a full Scylla set I'll stop worrying about the aesthetics of Caster gear forever. Since apparently they are condemned to be ugly.
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  2. #12
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    Artemiz's Avatar
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    Character
    Darwinian Origin
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Please don't remind me of the Evenstar gear, I've only just got over how horrific they made my BLM look. At least I'm not a Miqo'te though, that tail was... *shudders*
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  3. #13
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    Valkyrie-Amber's Avatar
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    Character
    Silver Tiger
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    you know following my prefious post about drg gear and floor...

    Don't you all think drgs should receive a new passive skill called floor spikes where tank takes mob over drg and mob gets hurt maybe with a bleed dot?
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  4. #14
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    ksuisa's Avatar
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    Xiahou Ji
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    you know following my prefious post about drg gear and floor...

    Don't you all think drgs should receive a new passive skill called floor spikes where tank takes mob over drg and mob gets hurt maybe with a bleed dot?
    please no bulliyng
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  5. #15
    Player Selli's Avatar
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    Selli Noblesse
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Becoming carbon copies? Similar sets have existed since Darklight. And Darklight wasn't even dyeable until after it was a retired set to most players.
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  6. 02-13-2016 09:41 PM

  7. #16
    Player
    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ksuisa View Post
    Man when 4.0 hits and ps3 is dropped I can't wait to see all the content they've been holding back. It's gonna be sick. Larger inventories, no instanced cities, no load screens, hundreds of gear with different looks, glamour wardrobe, man it's gonna be insane
    gear models fit into time limitation (or gear staff limitation), not PS3 limitation.
    It is faster to create 1 gear model for 2 roles.
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  8. #17
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    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by tjw View Post
    Soldiery, yes, High Allagan, no. The High Allagan Aiming and Casting coats were palette swaps, and the Fending Coat and Healing coat were built off the same model.
    Regarding the Healing/Tanking coats, I thought I was the only one who noticed that! I thought I was going crazy all this time.

    As for the topic at hand, I do wish they'd show some more variety in how they share the sets. It's almost always NIN with MNK or NIN with the Ranged classes, and it's almost always Caster and Healer sharing models. It's more interesting to me when they mix it up a bit (such as the few times when BRD and Casters have shared a model, for instance).

    I'd also like to see the "special snowflakes" in each stable of gear be more varied. With a normal series, we get 2 unique sets that aren't shared: across the game's history, most of the time, those 2 unique models go to Tank and one other role, which is normally DRG or BRD (and occasionally MNK). Healers and Casters have gotten separate, unique sets once or twice, and NIN has yet to get one. Spread the snowflakes a little, SE.
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  9. #18
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Character
    Muhau Nbolo
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    First Coil of Bahamut: Tank, DRG/MNK/BRD, BLM/WHM/SMN/SCH
    Second Coil of Bahamut: Tank, DRG/MNK, BRD/BLM/SMN, WHM/SCH, BLM/SMN
    Final Coil of Bahamut: Tank, DRG, MNK/NIN, BRD, WHM/SCH/BLM/SMN
    Crystal Tower: Tank, MNK, DRG/BRD, WHM/SCH/BLM/SMN
    Sycrus Tower: Tank, DRG/MNK, BRD, WHM/SCH/BLM/SMN *Thanks to Alahara for pointing out that the tank set is different from DRG/MNK! Updated 9:33 AM.
    World of Darkness: Tank, BRD, BLM/SMN, DRG, MNK/NIN, BLM/WHM/SCH/SMN
    Void Ark: Tank, DRG, BRD/NIN, MNK, BLM/SMN/WHM/SCH*this is othe only one I'm salty about. The DRG's really does look extremely similar to the Tank one, but it has more effort than the usual lazy reskins so I'll give people the benefit of the doubt and call it unique.
    Alexander of the Father: Tank, MNKDRG, BRD/NIN, WHM/SCH/BLM/SMN

    Uniqe Raid Sets:
    Tank: 8
    BRD: 3
    DRG: 3
    MNK: 2
    NIN: 0, but expected - shortest lifespan of the 2.0 classes.
    WHM/SCH: 1
    BLM/SMN: 0


    Now, time to do tomestones...
    Darklight (Philosophy) : Tank, MNK/BRD, DRG, WHM/SCH/BLM/SMN
    Mythology: All were unique. Not applicable.
    Soldiery: Tank, DRG, MNK/BRD, BLM/SMN, WHM/SCH
    Poetics: Tank, MNK/DRG, NIN/BRD, BLM/SMN, WHM/SCH
    Law: Tank, MNK/DRG/NIN, BRD, WHM/SCH/BLM,SMN
    Esoterics: All were unique. Not applicable.

    Tomestone Gear:
    Tank: 3
    BRD: 1
    DRG: 1
    MNK: 0
    NIN: 0
    WHM/SCH: 2
    BLM/SMN: 2

    Total Uniques:
    Tank: 11
    BRD: 4
    DRG: 4
    WHM/SCH: 3
    BLM/SMN: 1
    MNK: 2
    NIN: 0

    By my eye, it looks like WHM/SCH has almost as many as DRG. The gap gets a little bit bigger next patch, mind you. So we'll see how it plays out. But by my eye, the roles that need unique gear the most right now?

    NIN and MNK.

    Conclusion?
    Healers and casters, if they're gonna target someone, should look at Tanks, who get the most unique gear out of all classes (Nearly double) from Tomestone/Raid gear. Instead, they are whining and targetting dragoons as 'special snowflakes' who humerously as it turns out - is actually relatively close to the same amount of unique gear pre-3.2. And of course, they completely neglect the MNK/NIN's, who almost always wind up being palette swaps of one another even though they're two different sets. Even giving healers the benefits and not calling 'all casting/healing' gear the same, they are STILL in a better place than MNK's and NIN's.

    *Edit: someone else can add 3.2 to the list if they want, but I added Alexander of the Father to the list because that is part of pre-3.2

    Edit @8:35 PM; my girlfriend pointed out that the Second Coil set, the BRD is literally a reskin of the Caster set. Fixed.
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    Last edited by Eidolon; 02-13-2016 at 11:34 PM.

  10. #19
    Player
    Averax's Avatar
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    Character
    Ven Black
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    I'm just tired of getting a carbon copy of the caster version of whatever that has been stripped of any color except for white. Maybe i want to wear black once!
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  11. #20
    Player
    LadyVal's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Valentina Jalenoux
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I'm just tired of getting a carbon copy of the caster version of whatever that has been stripped of any color except for white. Maybe i want to wear black once!
    The i110 PvP gear set is no longer rank-locked, is fairly cheap, unique to WHM (for the most part), and is black.
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