About Plot selling

[Lyci]

Just gonna leave it here since i dont know where else to post xD

i'm slowly starting to get pissed about people selling housing plots all the time, like for example, camping housing wards all of the time to buy each new released plot and resell it for laughable prices, without starting to run sells or idk what other .... shit etc its not really possable to get a house anymore and even with new wards release people will do the same there to piss up others just to make gil.....
it really shouldnt be allowed and takes kind of every fun out of the housing

sorry for the confused writing style of the text but didn't know really how to explain lol also cos first time using the forum xD

[Saccharin]

Just gonna leave it here since i dont know where else to post xD

i'm slowly starting to get pissed about people selling housing plots all the time, like for example, camping housing wards all of the time to buy each new released plot and resell it for laughable prices, without starting to run sells or idk what other .... shit etc its not really possable to get a house anymore and even with new wards release people will do the same there to piss up others just to make gil.....
it really shouldnt be allowed and takes kind of every fun out of the housing

sorry for the confused writing style of the text but didn't know really how to explain lol also cos first time using the forum xD

This is exactly what happens in ArcheAge. AA has limited land due to the open world nature; SE just cba to invest in extra ward instances.

[Dogempire]

This is exactly what happens in ArcheAge. AA has limited land due to the open world nature; SE just cba to invest in extra ward instances.

Archeage is different, land is a lot more abundant than FFXIV and there's a way to set plots for sale at a certain price, there's also no trading cap. Also there's a tax system so people will actually lose their houses. (1 week to pay taxes, 1 week before it demos if no taxes by the end of week 1)

Also, if you set your house at a ridiculous price nobody will buy it.

Archeage has a pretty great housing system since if I have money I can just go browse housing areas and buy houses directly 100% safely. FFXIV outlaws selling houses and that's not fair if you have money since your money is useless unless you can log in as soon as a new housing ward is released.

[Canadane]

I wish that new wards opened up as needed. Much like how new pages of a FC's personal room open up as more personal rooms are built.
So if Ward 16 fills all plots and subplots, then Ward 17 opens up. The only downside to this plan is that if you want a large house, you may be waiting a while... I suppose there's no perfect solution other than opening up 1000+ wards right away.

This would help curb reselling (which is a violation of terms anyway, isn't it?) as there's always something going for the games set price.

[Dogempire]

I wish that new wards opened up as needed. Much like how new pages of a FC's personal room open up as more personal rooms are built.
So if Ward 16 fills all plots and subplots, then Ward 17 opens up. The only downside to this plan is that if you want a large house, you may be waiting a while... I suppose there's no perfect solution other than opening up 1000+ wards right away.

This would help curb reselling (which is a violation of terms anyway, isn't it?) as there's always something going for the games set price.

There's apparently an issue with housing taking up a ton of space.

[Nihility]

There's apparently an issue with housing taking up a ton of space.

It's because the housing servers are large persistent zones rather than small instanced things like a private room.
If you notice within the guild houses you can have the little private rooms for days but the actual neighborhoods take a lot of resources to maintain

It's why they are planning those motel type things, i think they called them mansions, where it's just a preset building where tons of people can just get little instanced private quarters that aren't really part of a persistent neighborhood

The housing situation is a bit of shame though. it seems like the devs did everything they could to make it unappealing to speculation but it still happens, i guess if buyers are dumb enough to pay a guy to demo his plot and hope no one is around to scoop it up before he can there will be sellers to capitalize on it

[Ashkendor]

Pretty sure buying up plots and reselling them for obscenely high prices has gotten a few people in trouble.

If someone's doing it repeatedly, just start reporting them every time they put up a PF or shout about it.

[Kosmos992k]

Pretty sure buying up plots and reselling them for obscenely high prices has gotten a few people in trouble.

If someone's doing it repeatedly, just start reporting them every time they put up a PF or shout about it.

Indeed, Someone posted a complaint topic about this recently because they felt unfairly disciplined, because they sold their plot (that they had bought genuinely, but never had time to actually use.

Personally though, I feel that if you bought a plot and subsequently realize you can't use it, then relinquish it. In fact, since SE is giving absentee land lords 80% of their investment back, I don't think it's too unfair to suggest that when players relinquish their plot of land back to the system they should get some proportion of their investment back, perhaps 60% rather than 80% since they don't have to wait 45 days. That might help control the plot reselling via PF. Certainly it would remove one of the excuses people use to justify gouging players for a plot of land.

Oh, just noticed Niwashi's suggestion above, and I agree, but would reduce the returned gil to 60% because you don't have to wait for 45 days.

When you buy a personal house, it should become the personal house of all alts on that account on that server. All alts would have full ownership privileges, but be unable to buy other personal houses without relinquishing the first one. (This would change who can have a house. I'd propose that the current rule about needing to be level 50 and 2nd Lt apply just to the character who makes the purchase, but not be needed for other alts using it. Another alternative would be that other alts only gain full ownership rights (decorating, use of gardens, stables, etc.) once they, too, meet the requirements.)

Yes, this would be excellent, and the system needs to be able to allow players to own one 'personal' house and one Free Company house, since otherwise FC masters are screwed.

That last one (though it would have been a good rule to set in the first place) would be the hardest to add at this point, just because they'd need a way to deal with all the accounts that currently have multiple houses. There's no obvious way to determine which of them the player would keep as their account-wide personal house. All the other changes listed should be relatively straightforward to add, though, and would be helpful even without that last one.

It could be done by messaging the player, ask the payer to choose which home they want to keep, refund 100% of the gil spend on the others, and store all related furnishings with the residential Caretaker indefinitely for the player to recover.

[Lyci]

On my server i see the same people each secound day or each day selling plots in div wards etc,
also i asked a gm about it and couldn't give me a real answer about, kinda just to start a thread on forum lol

[Rawrz]

Yeah, I made a thread about it and somewhere in the thread I called the people that bought and resold all the plots on christmas an inappropriate name, think Donkey + center of doughnut. Bam. Banned for 2 weeks.