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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    SE has already announced more plots and wards in existing areas, and apartment style housing is coming after that;

    January Live Letter, 4th Question.



    Note, that in this answer the original Japanese language used the term 'Mansion' to describe the building housing the apartments. I think that because they want this new type of housing to be roughly equivalent to small personal houses, the apartments will be two level Maisonettes - which fits very well the 'Mansion' concept in the original Japanese.
    The thing is 'more wards' is only a band aid as they will just run out within 10 minutes again. The game needs an unlimited pool of housing plots for players to buy. Many other MMOs have managed this so it is perfectly feasible. SE just designed the current system very very poorly.

    I'm not sure where you're getting the two storey thing from. 'Mansions' in Japan are apartment blocks. Flats. The mansions are still limited by the way; 512 apartments (not houses, they're likely identical to FC private chambers). Firstly they won't last long, and secondly players don't want apartments, they want houses. Like I said, other MMOs have managed this just fine so why can't SE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    The thing is 'more wards' is only a band aid as they will just run out within 10 minutes again. The game needs an unlimited pool of housing plots for players to buy. Many other MMOs have managed this so it is perfectly feasible. SE just designed the current system very very poorly.

    The mansions are still limited by the way; 512 apartments (not houses, they're likely identical to FC private chambers). Firstly they won't last long, and secondly players don't want apartments, they want houses. Like I said, other MMOs have managed this just fine so why can't SE?
    You're just repeating what's in my posts. Yes apartments will be 512 to a block, but it will be easy to implement multiple 'blocks' considering that they are implemented along the same lines as a FC house. 1 block per ward in all housing wards would end the housing shortage overnight. Also I think that these apartments will be maisonettes, not simply chambers because they are trying to give players something equivalent to an individual house, the smallest of which has two floors (including basement).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    The thing is 'more wards' is only a band aid as they will just run out within 10 minutes again. The game needs an unlimited pool of housing plots for players to buy. Many other MMOs have managed this so it is perfectly feasible. SE just designed the current system very very poorly.

    I'm not sure where you're getting the two storey thing from. 'Mansions' in Japan are apartment blocks. Flats. The mansions are still limited by the way; 512 apartments (not houses, they're likely identical to FC private chambers). Firstly they won't last long, and secondly players don't want apartments, they want houses. Like I said, other MMOs have managed this just fine so why can't SE?
    This, this this.

    Even with 512 person mansions, they'll still be limited. What happens when they fill? The problem starts all over again.

    Private instances that aren't loaded the entire time are the solution, just like your Inn room. So replace the Inn room with a private instanced room. Preferably one that doesn't blackmail you into resubbing for every 45 days, too.
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 02-13-2016 at 07:24 PM.

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    No.

    Because if I buy a plot with real money; I would upset if I lost it 45 days later from taking a break.
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    I would love for them to put houses on the Mog Station. I really want a house but it is impossible to find a open small plot to purchase. I would buy one from the Mog Station day 1 if it was a option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    I would love for them to put houses on the Mog Station. I really want a house but it is impossible to find a open small plot to purchase. I would buy one from the Mog Station day 1 if it was a option.
    I would too assuming there was unlimited plots/wards available. If you wanted to purchase a house with gil, but land was still limited and someone with real cash beat you to it, that's feel pretty crappy. Other than that, I'm all for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    I would love for them to put houses on the Mog Station. I really want a house but it is impossible to find a open small plot to purchase. I would buy one from the Mog Station day 1 if it was a option.
    That would fix nothing.
    Don't forget, the poblem is not people selling houses to other people, but people paying other people for demolishing their house.
    With plots in the mog shop people will still pay other people with gil to get a free plot they can then buy in the mog shop.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    This, this this.

    Even with 512 person mansions, they'll still be limited. What happens when they fill? The problem starts all over again.

    Private instances that aren't loaded the entire time are the solution, just like your Inn room. So replace the Inn room with a private instanced room. Preferably one that doesn't blackmail you into resubbing for every 45 days, too.
    512 * 16 (normal and extended wards) * 4 (the 4 cities) = 32768 rooms if they only put 1 aprtment in each ward
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    Last edited by Felis; 02-13-2016 at 10:35 PM.

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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    as i already have a house if had to pay real money for it.. not a chance lol only things that should remain in the mogstation is cheap glamours n past event items ;/
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
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    Terrible idea. Housing needs to be fixed but making it a Cash-Shop item is not the answer.

    This isn't a FTP game, your sub should cover everything apart from cosmetic items. Housing is advertised as a feature of the game, everyone should have access to it without having to pay extra.
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