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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
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    Since the guy you're responding to was responding to me, I figured I'd chime in. This is absolutely the truth. I didn't feel I was a slave to the system. I felt like I was working hard to save up money. I didn't complain even once, and the last day of one of my 30 day stretches was Christmas Eve, and I showed up with a Santa hat and a smile to work. By the end of my shift my hair was pretty screwed up from the hat, and I was sweating pretty hard, but it was all okay when we closed the store and sat in the stockroom eating stuff that we all brought for the Xmas party. I actually had fun, imagine that.

    If you're working a job you absolutely cannot stand, then I agree, those long stretches can be a pain. I've been irritated after 6 days or so at certain jobs, but it largely depends on where you work and how you decide to approach the situation. If your coworkers are complete asshats and drama starters, then yes, obviously you're going to hate even working one full day. However, that's a rarity from my experience. I'm unemployed at the moment after I had surgery earlier this year and I miss working. Nothing around here is hiring, though I expect that will change next month with seasonal jobs. I have enough experience to far outclass menial cashier jobs, though if that's what I can get, I'll take it at this point.

    People really need to be taught from a young age about work ethic. It needs to be instilled into people. I get so tired of listening to friends complain about their jobs when I've stated numerous times to then, "Then quit and put in a good word for me."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post
    Since the guy you're responding to was responding to me, I figured I'd chime in. This is absolutely the truth. I didn't feel I was a slave to the system. I felt like I was working hard to save up money. I didn't complain even once, and the last day of one of my 30 day stretches was Christmas Eve, and I showed up with a Santa hat and a smile to work. By the end of my shift my hair was pretty screwed up from the hat, and I was sweating pretty hard, but it was all okay when we closed the store and sat in the stockroom eating stuff that we all brought for the Xmas party. I actually had fun, imagine that.

    If you're working a job you absolutely cannot stand, then I agree, those long stretches can be a pain. I've been irritated after 6 days or so at certain jobs, but it largely depends on where you work and how you decide to approach the situation. If your coworkers are complete asshats and drama starters, then yes, obviously you're going to hate even working one full day. However, that's a rarity from my experience. I'm unemployed at the moment after I had surgery earlier this year and I miss working. Nothing around here is hiring, though I expect that will change next month with seasonal jobs. I have enough experience to far outclass menial cashier jobs, though if that's what I can get, I'll take it at this point.

    People really need to be taught from a young age about work ethic. It needs to be instilled into people. I get so tired of listening to friends complain about their jobs when I've stated numerous times to then, "Then quit and put in a good word for me."
    Absolutely.

    I don't think people should be working those long hours, and I find it ridiculous. The problem is, the state system isn't helping. The more regulations, the dodgier these corporations get and the more excuses they earn to not hire those worthy of such jobs. I do think it's wrong and immoral that companies fire and hire in certain ways and charge for certain services, but the key to that is never the state system: it is through boycotts and competition, the kind of things that can't be dodged.

    I've worked in various manners ever since I was a mere kid, even ran a business before (even if it was in a limited capacity). Not to mention that it's in my bloodline too as part of my family used to own most of Georgia post-slavery.

    At the end of the day, unless someone is literally forcing you into doing something, it is not slavery nor evil - and since one's value is relative when compared with any commodity, it is the person's own duty to prove he's worthy for what he wants.

    Edit: anyways, I'm done. I've said my peace, anything further will just be repeating myself and going further off-topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartigan_Redsail View Post
    I worry about humanity because just looking at this forum day to day makes me want to vomit at the douche baggery. The devs are doing an AMAZING job and I really hope they look out for their health. I also hope they know the large amount of horrid people posting on the forums here don't represent how most of us feel.

    Its like hey, lets take a nice and thoughtful post and then crap all over it the best we can instead of just letting it be a nice thought someone had.
    It's just stupid dude. The OP talks about them "putting their lives on the line." That's completely ridiculous and deserves to be called it. It might be a nice post in theory but it's so over the top it just looks dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    It's just stupid dude. The OP talks about them "putting their lives on the line." That's completely ridiculous and deserves to be called it. It might be a nice post in theory but it's so over the top it just looks dumb.
    Actually, when you're working 14+ hours days, you are putting your life on the line, no matter the profession -- Your body wasn't designed to be under constant stress like that. This is why even with good diets, people who work that much usually fall first. It's why people die of exhaustion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Actually, when you're working 14+ hours days, you are putting your life on the line, no matter the profession -- Your body wasn't designed to be under constant stress like that.
    According to whom?

    Look I'm not saying working 14 hours a day is the healthiest thing in the world, but there are millions of people all over the world who do it on a daily basis and are doing just fine. And I think a vast majority of people in the world can say they've been overworked like that at some point in their lives. I certainly have. And I'm sure some people have died from the stress of being overworked, but that doesn't mean that everyone who is overworked is putting their life on the line. That's like saying "hey, people have gotten in car accidents, so I'm putting my life on the line when I drive home from work!"

    Soldiers put their lives on the line.
    Firefighters put their lives on the line.
    Cops put their lives on the line.
    Miners put their lives on the line.

    Yoshida sitting in an office with an intense work schedule, is not putting his life on the line. That's ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    According to whom?

    Look I'm not saying working 14 hours a day is the healthiest thing in the world, but there are millions of people all over the world who do it on a daily basis and are doing just fine. And I think a vast majority of people in the world can say they've been overworked like that at some point in their lives. I certainly have. And I'm sure some people have died from the stress of being overworked, but that doesn't mean that everyone who is overworked is putting their life on the line. That's like saying "hey, people have gotten in car accidents, so I'm putting my life on the line when I drive home from work!"

    Soldiers put their lives on the line.
    Firefighters put their lives on the line.
    Cops put their lives on the line.
    Miners put their lives on the line.

    Yoshida sitting in an office with an intense work schedule, is not putting his life on the line. That's ridiculous.
    2 years i need a lot of money to pay some debts and was working from 8 AM to 10PM(some days to 12PM) monday to friday and weekends i would do 9AM to 6PM. I did that for almost a year. My gf's roomate has been doing 7AM to 9PM monday to friday for the past 4-5 months and she's not the strongest looking girl, she looks damn fragile if you ask me and yet she goes clubbing 3 times a week after work. So yeah.... your body can handle a lot more then you think. Our bodies was not designed to sit a desk all day, before civilization we were hunters and we worked our bodies a hell lot more. That's what it was designed for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Actually, when you're working 14+ hours days, you are putting your life on the line, no matter the profession -- Your body wasn't designed to be under constant stress like that. This is why even with good diets, people who work that much usually fall first. It's why people die of exhaustion.
    2 years ago i needed a lot of money to pay some debts and was working from 8 AM to 10PM(some days to 12PM) monday to friday and weekends i would do 9AM to 6PM. I did that for almost a year. My gf's roomate has been doing 7AM to 9PM monday to friday for the past 4-5 months and she's not the strongest looking girl, she looks damn fragile if you ask me and yet she goes clubbing 3 times a week after work. So yeah.... your body can handle a lot more then you think. Our bodies was not designed to sit a desk all day, before civilization we were hunters and we worked our bodies a hell lot more. That's what it was designed for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    It's just stupid dude. The OP talks about them "putting their lives on the line." That's completely ridiculous and deserves to be called it. It might be a nice post in theory but it's so over the top it just looks dumb.
    Whether or not you like the wording, why does it have to be ripped apart? People are vultures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartigan_Redsail View Post
    Whether or not you like the wording, why does it have to be ripped apart? People are vultures.
    It's not just the wording, it's the sentiment.

    And there's nothing that says it HAS to be ripped apart, but ridiculous things stated in a public forum tend to be called what they are.
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