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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    TL/DR you're committing a fraud the moment you claim you're selling the plot, instead of stating you're selling the release of the plot to be bought from the game.
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    This.

    It's a lie/fraud, if you say 'Selling plot for x Mio. Gil, send tell.', because you literally do not sell it.

    Like 'Selling Thordan weapon drop', if in reality you meant by this that you (not speaking for the other 6 ppl) will pass on the weapon.

    'Will relinquish plot for x Gil.' or 'Selling Thordan Kill' instead would be okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    ^
    This.

    It's a lie/fraud, if you say 'Selling plot for x Mio. Gil, send tell.', because you literally do not sell it.

    Like 'Selling Thordan weapon drop', if in reality you meant by this that you (not speaking for the other 6 ppl) will pass on the weapon.

    'Will relinquish plot for x Gil.' or 'Selling Thordan Kill' instead would be okay.
    Ah, so you are just arguing semantics?
    I suspect just about everyone involved knows exactly what is meant by 'Selling a plot/house'
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Ah, so you are just arguing semantics?
    I suspect just about everyone involved knows exactly what is meant by 'Selling a plot/house'
    Yes, because if you sent a GM a chat log and demand punishment of someone who fraud you
    they will care about semantics, too.

    Or, the other way round:

    I don't think you'll be banned for any of those transactions, in case someone sends in a copy of the chat log:

    'If you pay me x Mio. Gil I will throw away all my gear / relinquish my plot / guide you trough a dungeon / be your personal servant / run in circles for 2 hours / camp at the housing area and inform you when a plot gets free.'
    - 'Deal. Here's your money.'

    Since afair GMs always look on (chat) logs to decide if someone is guilty of fraud/scam I'd say semantics are important.


    But I have never seen a chat log or justification by GM for a ban because of plot 'selling', so maybe I'm wrong with my upper estimation.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 02-13-2016 at 02:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    I suspect just about everyone involved knows exactly what is meant by 'Selling a plot/house'
    You are totally wrong, here on this forums some few time ago was posted couple of cases where people was asking help from GM's because that statement was not clear, as those players just looking the selling advertisement on party finder and didnt had much background information about it. So in the end they ended paying for plot being free and then being unable to buy the plot.
    Though of course was some of their fault the lacking of information, still the Selling plot advertisement falls under a false advertisement case.
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