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    Player TheWaywardWind's Avatar
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    Alexander Miller
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Yet it is for the reasons that Scholar falls behind. And your math is wrong.

    This is assuming you have six mobs, and you neglect the fact that Bane's potency is reduced by half when you have four mobs or more. It is not the same for every single mob.
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    Player
    Pence's Avatar
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    True. Sorry, in PVP while I type. But SCH still packs a decent punch.
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Easiest answer : all three

    They all have pro and con but as long as you master the timing to switch stance because your cripple tank cannot take more than 30 hit without being low life
    It should be fine and fast

    The tank must not be a LAZY one that forget his défensive CD XD

    ...
    But honestly
    I think whm and SCH are on par
    Ast is pretty weaker in DPS but can really boost dps

    ...

    And i'm sorry but SCH is the master in aoe
    While the whm is best in single target
    Especially in term of mana (the whm burn too much in aoe)
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    Last edited by Nekotee; 02-09-2016 at 06:48 PM.

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    AlexanderThorolund's Avatar
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    Eros Crux
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    Louisoix
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Scholar, it's just another DPS in 4 man dungeons.
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I'd go WHM > SCH > AST, although I have to say AST may go way up in that rating if the right cards are drawn.
    The difference between healer damage past 52 isn't THAT big, but keeping your aoe DPS classes' dmg boosted all the time can end up being a much, much greater asset than that 300 potency attack every one and a half minute

    But, as anything with AST, it ends up being based on luck
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    Werhusky's Avatar
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    Nazreen Eby
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    If you want raw burst DPS its definitely WHM for me, just Regen M2 Asylum CS and go. Also a Bene while you just spam holy <3
    AST is imo next up as you can use cards and Gravity stuff down and if need more DPS time just CO and keep doing your stuff.
    SCH I would put last due to DoTs and "single target only" and if you unlucky the DPS single target your dotted mob before you have them up/can Bane.
    Just my PoV though ^^

    I use AST in most cases for Dungeons... probably because its my worst of the 3 heals and I rarely use in raids
    AST on 50 is worst though either way as it has no AoE skill >.>
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    Kabz Il
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    Spriggan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    As you mentioned speed clearing, WHM definitely wins out of the three. Aero III, Holy and Assize are all amazing spells.
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    If you are speed running a WHM is better simply for clearing trash and adds on bosses far more capable of attacking multiple targets at once and holy as an AoE attack + stun is still OP to the point of it being nerfed twice and still being really effective along with at lvl 60 having two more AoE attacks to play with including the insanely good Assize. This is just going by basics though there are always variances with skill but in 4 man speed runs it really depends on a lot of AoE which WHM adds to so it edges it.
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    Player Cleftobismal's Avatar
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    Clefto Bismal
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Max Potency on Aoe Dots:

    WHM:

    Aero 3

    320 over 24 seconds


    SCH

    Shadow Flare

    250 over 30



    By the time I set up dots as a sch, 3.5 holy's have already went off. (Not including presence of mind or a whm that builds spell build)


    In the long run It's definitely a sch that will out aoe a whm with the combine power of Shadow Flare + dots + Blizzard Three. Not to mention when the whm runs out of mana.

    In terms of a speed run though where everyone is equipped to do a lot of damage, a whm would win over a sch because of the less time needed to set up.
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    MrsFluffyButt's Avatar
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    Al'tani I'rieseith
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    I know this doesn't apply to me as much cos' I'm tank vet and main, but for 4 man content, I prefer AST/SCH. True AST isn't the best with DPS but it's SpS stance, buffs and lightspeed...hard to go wrong.
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