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  1. #1
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Its very hard to find a party with no search tools especially around my level 36. So I am stuck with leves that give 80exp a kill and 2k when you finish.

    Please fix guild leve exp. As it is right now it is such a grind to get anywhere in this game.
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    Leveling shouldn't be too easy, anyone who actually puts the effort in isn't low lvl for very long. lvling is so fast now that it shouldnt matter, do a couple sets of leves then youre the right lvl to start partying. Maybe put in a little effort, this isnt WoW.
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    As a new player to FFXIV I have to say the problem I see is where in FFXI you would start partying with people at around level 15 in FFXIV I have no idea best time to start and no way of searching or finding parties that are specifically helpful to me. In the sense of I don't know what level need to start grouping, where to find groups, what sort of quests and such need groups and what roles each class has in a group.

    It just doesn't seem as new player friendly and maybe thats just the player base being far more picky about who group with and what group with or for what to group up to do in first place. I just find it more confusing than in FFXI for all those aspects just mentioned. In the game world I notice quite often noone talks to each other much outside of their own linkshells so and hardly anyone seems willing to group up to do things or doesn't know if or when need to do so. Seems to be a quiet world where everyone doing their own things and noone asking for any assistance or help with anything outside of linkshells if part of one.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 11-01-2011 at 03:04 AM. Reason: ammended

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    OJtheLIONKing's Avatar
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    Ojay Lionking
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Well, I suppose the "leveling shouldn't be too easy" and "n00b just get an xp party" "arguments" are to be expected from long time FFXI players (I know, I am one myself), but remember we're trying to make this MMO successful in the general market, not just for people who emigrated from FFXI.

    Leveling is not an accomplishment. It's the expected result. You could theoretically get to level 50 by using the South Park method of beating on level 1 critters 24 hours a day. The game shouldn't act as if it is an accomplishment. It's a means to an end. There should be content along the way to keep it interesting, but what keeps players on a game for years is not leveling grind, but content, especially endgame content.

    Not to mention, the stated goal by both the former team and the new management has been to allow people to play how they want to play. Yes, XP parties are fast, but they are also terribly boring for a lot of people. Feel free to go to any other game's forums and look to see if they're asking for more mindless grind. FFXIV parties aren't as bad as FFXI parties in requiring you to stay for unreasonable amounts of time to not get blacklisted by the party members, but they still last too long.

    People should be able to level in a reasonable amount of time playing solo if they so choose, especially considering that there is not a single level curve to 50 like most MMOs, but many as you level diffferent classes. The curve should, if anything, be shorter than it is in other MMOs to reflect this, since endgame groups often expect you to have multiple classes to a high level to be able to function at the level they expect.

    Yes, there's a problem with fights being overly difficult for people starting out who are just learning the system and need better gear, but it's not the main problem. I know how my classes operate and I have good gear for them, but it still takes multiple times longer for me to level a lower level class that's considered a "prereq" for me to even play my preferred class than it would take to just level a fully functioning class in any other MMO. This isn't a good model, and the game mustn't force people to play in XP parties just to avoid the overly slow solo curve.
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    Ark Sniper
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    Excalibur
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    Miner Lv 50
    1-10 is easy 10-20 can be a pain. I usually start off at level 1 with corroded cobs untill I hit like 5. From 5-10 I move up to the higher level cobs just north of Black Brush and take them down in small groups at first and build untill I get about 9 of them I can 2-3 shot with AOEs makes leveling super fast I got gald/pug/mrd/con/thaum from 1-10 in just a few hrs of playing. Sadly I have not yet found an easy farm mob from 10-15. From 15-20 the dodo's north of drybone can be killed the same way easily. Just a small suggestion 1-10 is faster w/o leves but 10-15 may be better with 1 star leves from drybone or 5 start from black brush.
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    Leknaat Phoenix
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 70
    Maybe limit chains to solo or maybe even duos and make the mobs a little squishier. Parties (especially 35 or higher) don't need the chain bonus - they can fight mobs that are significantly higher for better exp than a soloer can.

    This would also open the way for chain bonus for weaker mobs too :X
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    Last edited by Leknaat; 11-03-2011 at 05:55 AM.

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    Wow could this game be any easier? With Ifrit and Batraal being the only somewhat challenging content in this game do we really need to carry every low level character to 50 as well? I got my first 50 doing dunesfolk for an amazing 100k every 36 hours. We thought that was broken! I don't see how hard it can be to get any dom/dow to 50. Arent leve groups still a good way to gain your levels and what happened to behest? I would spam behest for hours to get one rank and we thought that was BROKEN!!! Whatever, SE you are doing fine. Don't give in and start making this too easy, instead you can just change that retarded loot system on Ifrit. Peace.
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    "Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator and at least the horse never said anything stupid."

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    Crux Corvus
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 70
    Roll a new character (they are free). Roll as a Gladiator. Level to 15 with no help from anyone, no gear from your main, just like a new player. No PL.

    If you do it just as a brand new player that doesn't know anyone in the fairly quiet world, go grind mobs solo or even do leves. No mount, no cash, lvl 1 gear with many empty slots. Then come back and tell me it is too easy.
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    Lucifer Morningstar
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    Ultima
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    Arcanist Lv 3
    Stop catering to soloers. This is an MMORPG for crying out loud.
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    the problem ist not the difficulty.

    its just so damn boring. i AM a new player and its not that i struggle so much with my lancer. i soloed now to 19 and its just plain boring.

    PLed just for a lvl cause was boring watching a guy doing something i should do. Quests are a joke, leves are small in number and well whats left is a korean grind game

    edit: this "Party" stuff. im new so i dont know a shit about this game. and i didnt found an instance, nor i do understand what peeps yell in the citys. how the hell can i find a grp? and when i ask peeps just say "well normaly your supposed to PL!".
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    Last edited by Nydus; 11-26-2011 at 11:47 PM.

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