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    Avoiding AOE attacks - taking damage when outside of the AOE

    Hi All,

    Apologies if this has already been discussed, I'm sure it has at some point. Google has only come up with very general answers but I am after some specific information from people currently playing the game.

    My husband and I both play and are having a lot of difficulty with aoe attacks. Even when we are well out of the area by the time the cast bar is full we still seem to be taking damage.

    We're both fairly seasoned MMO players so we are use to handling aoe's and the need for quick response times but are finding it difficult to come up with a solution when playing FFXIV.

    We are based in Australia and understand this increases ping but to date that hasn't been a massive problem in other games.

    So is there a special technique to managing aoe's in FFXIV? At this point we are both sticking to ranged classes as melee and tank classes are not playable for us due to this.
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    Back when the lag was worse than it is now, people suggested using an ability as soon as you're out of the AoE. This forces the game to update your position whereas with the lag and the natural delay between ticks on sending the server your info can make you feel like you're gettin hit with aoe's you shouldn't be because the game still thinks you're there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathelas View Post
    Back when the lag was worse than it is now, people suggested using an ability as soon as you're out of the AoE. This forces the game to update your position whereas with the lag and the natural delay between ticks on sending the server your info can make you feel like you're gettin hit with aoe's you shouldn't be because the game still thinks you're there.
    so thats why I sometimes get hit and sometimes not o-o
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    Check your ping to see what kind of delay your looking at. Also recently the servers are having some pretty bad rubber banding during peak hours. Hell I have 100ms ping to the servers and at times my character is allover the place due to packets dropping left and right.
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    well australia to the middle of canada will likely have some amount of latency issues, a vpn like wtfast might route you a better way possibly but maybe not

    the other issue is this game has kind of wonky low polling rate for determining position and facing. Supposedly jumping will force it to refresh your position
    basically you have to get out of aoe stuff or face away from petrifaction or whatever it is long before it actually casts or your at the mercy of the server ticks
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    I'll just leave this here, back from before the first "fix." Snarky commentary was mocking people claiming there isn't lag.
    http://i.imgur.com/oLZp8hl.gif

    Basically, if you're like me and have issues, you need to pre-dodge. Learn mechanics and know to predict what's coming next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    I'll just leave this here, back from before the first "fix." Snarky commentary was mocking people claiming there isn't lag.
    http://i.imgur.com/oLZp8hl.gif

    Basically, if you're like me and have issues, you need to pre-dodge. Learn mechanics and know to predict what's coming next.
    This exact thing happened to me yesterday and I was gobsmacked thinking WTF? I was no where near it

    Edited for spelling
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    I'll just leave this here, back from before the first "fix." Snarky commentary was mocking people claiming there isn't lag.
    http://i.imgur.com/oLZp8hl.gif

    Basically, if you're like me and have issues, you need to pre-dodge. Learn mechanics and know to predict what's coming next.
    omg I wish I had had that back then when I was telling people that I was way out of the aoe and getting hit nonetheless EXACTLY at Titan Ex , all insulting me for not being able to dodge.. omg finally a video to show people that it is exactly what is happening ...FINALLY !!!

    and yes, the only way to dodge is pre-dodge, or, better said, move before anything happens on your screen, otherwise you might as well stop trying those.

    As for WFast, for my own person situation, it didnt help whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    I'll just leave this here, back from before the first "fix." Snarky commentary was mocking people claiming there isn't lag.
    http://i.imgur.com/oLZp8hl.gif

    Basically, if you're like me and have issues, you need to pre-dodge. Learn mechanics and know to predict what's coming next.
    This ... happened in every Run and I swore to myself, I'm not going to run any of Titan Trials anymore after I have done the Extreme Version of it. (I did it so ya...)

    I know that feeling very well when Content is going to punish you during lag times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    I'll just leave this here, back from before the first "fix." Snarky commentary was mocking people claiming there isn't lag.
    http://i.imgur.com/oLZp8hl.gif

    Basically, if you're like me and have issues, you need to pre-dodge. Learn mechanics and know to predict what's coming next.
    Yeah, this is really unacceptable. I don't know how many times I am out of the stuff and it still hits me.
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