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    Player
    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    You reach 544 bases on the fact that you're full tome gear + all materia V accuracy on available slot...
    But choosing to take crafted gear and overmelding allow you to go far beyond the a4s cap

    Let's say left side = tome gear and right side = craft accesories
    You got more or less 10/11 slot on left and 25 on the right
    If we suppose using more IV materia...
    We can reach +324 accuracy
    So 678 with the base accuracy

    An exceptionnal amount for a healer XD

    BUT (and it's a big butt)

    I do not take in account the fact that each piece will have cap for accuracy
    And SE could block healer by lowering the allowed meldind cap in accuracy on each piece
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    Eeh, I do get very occasional misses in lvl60 dungeons. But I'd say that on an average, my miss rate is like... 1 %, or something. Not high enough to be bothersome, anyway.
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I missed with Miasma four times in a row in Thordan EX. When the stupid spell finally hit, I missed Aero three consecutive times >_>. My DPS went down by almost half.
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    I get misses in lvl 60 dungeons on healers. Its very minor, but its still there.
    Indeed, there's definitely an accuracy cap. Heck, it's even there on the lvl60 Training Dummy - fluid aura can miss. Given that fluid aura is often used as an "oh bum, gonna die, get away" skill you really don't want it to miss.
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    There is no accuracy cap on non-extreme primals and non-8man raid. The misses you notice on neverreap are only on the last boss, because of his shielding ability which grants his increased evasion as it takes damage (full evasion at 8 stacks, add phase).

    Unless they changed it with the expansion, but my WHM has yet to miss anything out of coil and I've used it on everything except alexander Savage and the 3.0 Ex primals.
    Incorrect, there are accuracy caps outside of the content you mention. It has been discussed quite a bit both here & elsewhere that the lack of acc on healer gear is becoming a detriment, even in relatively "low" level dungeons like Neverreap.
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    Incorrect, there are accuracy caps outside of the content you mention. It has been discussed quite a bit both here & elsewhere that the lack of acc on healer gear is becoming a detriment, even in relatively "low" level dungeons like Neverreap.
    I did say "unless they changed it".

    I wonder what the new cap is for regular dungeons, and if they will continue to increase it passively to force healer stop dps because it wouldn't matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    It really isn't apples and oranges, nor is it a very logical explanation about healer DPS when Astro and Scholar each have DPS skills that are 100% hit rate and do not have accuracy requirements.
    this is because those skills don't have initial damage and thus aren't affected by accuracy and evasion. Yeah it looks like an oversight. But realistically, if the accuracy cap was at a point that healers would miss 99% of their spells, the dps gained from SCH and AST guaranteed spells would be meaningless
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 02-19-2016 at 06:00 PM.

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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranulf View Post
    is there any chance we can get an accuracy buff with Cleric Stance? You did it for Tank Stances.
    It's apples and oranges. A tank's "job" is to hold hate. A tank can only perform its job when it can hit the enemy. Therefore, accuracy was added to tank stances to tanks could do their job better. A healer's "job" is to heal. A healer can perform his job no matter what because healing doesn't require a set accuracy amount like some other games. Therefore, accuracy is not needed.

    Accuracy was only added to the TANK stances, not the DPS stances. Why would you think they would add accuracy to a healer's DPS stance then?
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    It really isn't apples and oranges, nor is it a very logical explanation about healer DPS when Astro and Scholar each have DPS skills that are 100% hit rate and do not have accuracy requirements.
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    Roland Starwind
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Please please please for the love of god I hope they add an accuracy bonus to Cleric's Stance. It's frustrating doing lvl 50 dungeons and missing spells because there's no accuracy on the 3.0+ healer gear anymore as well.
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    It really isn't apples and oranges, nor is it a very logical explanation about healer DPS when Astro and Scholar each have DPS skills that are 100% hit rate and do not have accuracy requirements.
    They have skills that have 100% hit rate because of the design of the system. It's a side-effect, not intended. Those particular skills aren't technically "skills" because they don't do damage directly. They are status effects. It just so happens the status that is applied deals damage over time, but the ability itself is treated as a debuff more than a damage skill. That's why the ACC system ignores it on the server-side. It sees a debuff being cast, not a damage skill.
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