Summoner has been confirmed in the future

[Starlord]

GameWatch - Whats your idea on what type of situation can you summon primals?
YoshiP - I think it’s OK to call whenever you like. When you can’t kill the boss in a free company using it as a final card asking “Ifrit beat the crap out of it” or in PvP area taking those heavy (hardcore) players always beating everyone up “Please take them down with one shot”.
It’s OK to go overboard. However you can only use it once and you don’t know when you can kill the next Ifrit and it doesn’t mean that card will come to you next time. When Ifrit gets summoned somewhere it will change the weather of all zones and you can tell someone summoned Ifrit. I think that be FF like MMORPG. It’s just general talk but we have the structure laid out and system is pretty much set so once the server is made we just need to build it.

OKa... thats it, I'm totally being Summoner now! ( even though I was to being with. BUT that right there is just pure Epicness!

[Alerith]

charging for summon....erm...does it the red bar on the new screenshot?? we can only speculate...

Eh, I think we've established that the red bar is enmity. We'll see as time goes on.

[LittleStar]

Yoshida: Actually it was kind of all put into one thing on that document but there are three different ways to think about this. There’s a buddy system for a companion and then you have a pet system and then the summons. The beast pet would be kind of like in FFXI, where you tame it, use it and then it’s done. So there is no growth with the pet. With Summoner, what we’re thinking of is maybe when you summon for example like Carbuncle… that’s not saying that Carbuncle is coming. It’s just an example! But when you summon it at maybe level 20 there will be certain abilities that it can use and then when the Summoner is level 50, that list will be extended with level 50 abilities. Carbuncle won’t change, it will just be the abilities that it can use.

It seems like there will be 2 different types of summons. One where you and your company can summon a primal for a one time use with a long cooldown, and then the actual summoner class who's summons are pets. The bolded makes it sound a lot like FFXI style summoner, where your avatars learned new abilities as you leveled up.

[Akumu]

My take on the matter is that Primals are GODS and summons are just lesser creatures.

1)It seems as if the Gods(Ifrit, Ramuh, Garuda, Levi, and Shiva) will need a free comapany to call upon them for a super attack and while being very damaging doesn't grant a 100% success rate.

2) There will be a summon class/job but it will be summoning the lesser ones

Yoshi-P - For post New FFXIV summoning system we have 2 ideas. One is pet type where you can summon monsters or spirits, and for calling out banshin/primal we are thinking of something else. To actually call summon 1 player community can have the right/key to hold and and in 2 weeks having everyone charge their summoning gauge and once summoning it goes back to nature. Summoning with a MMO feel.

GameWatch - Whats your idea on what type of situation can you summon primals?
YoshiP - I think it’s OK to call whenever you like. When you can’t kill the boss in a free company using it as a final card asking “Ifrit beat the crap out of it” or in PvP area taking those heavy (hardcore) players always beating everyone up “Please take them down with one shot”.
It’s OK to go overboard. However you can only use it once and you don’t know when you can kill the next Ifrit and it doesn’t mean that card will come to you next time. When Ifrit gets summoned somewhere it will change the weather of all zones and you can tell someone summoned Ifrit. I think that be FF like MMORPG. It’s just general talk but we have the structure laid out and system is pretty much set so once the server is made we just need to build it.

GameWatch - Job Summoner where you can summon spirits will also be implemented?
YoshiP - We will eventually implement. Pet users are star in MMORPG class. For example carbuncle is a summon a summner can call however “Ifrit” or “Garuda” or “Leviathan” or “Odin” are gods.

Translation by reinhart - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...light=reinhart

[Answa]

Hells to the f'ing yes. I'm always SMN and this game will be no different.

[Tsukino]

From the GameWatch interview:

今後、新生以降の召喚システムには2つのアイデアがあります。いわゆるペットとしてモンスターや精霊を呼び出すというものと、蛮神そのものを呼び出す召 喚はまったく別に考えています。蛮神そのものを呼び出すのは、そのワールドで1つのプレーヤーコミュニティが権利をホールドして、2週間全員で召喚ゲージ をためて、一発呼び出したらまた野に帰るというMMOらしい召喚にしたいなと。

For after 2.0, we have an idea for two summoning systems. We are thinking of the calling of so-called pets and monsters completely differently from summoning primals themselves. In the case of calling primals themselves, we want to do an "MMO-like" summoning where one player community on a world server will hold rights, and for two weeks everyone will build a summoning gauge, then call the primal out for a single attack, at which time they will return to the wild.

編：　精霊を呼び出せる召喚士というジョブも追加される？
吉田氏：　いずれ実装します。ペットユーザーというのは、MMORPGのクラスでは花形でもありますし。例えば「カーバンクル」は召喚士が呼べる召喚獣です。しかし「イフリート」や「ガルーダ」や「リヴァイアサン」、「オーディン」は蛮神であるというわけです。

Ed.: Will you be adding the Summoner job that can call spirits?
Yoshida: We will at some time. Pet users are kind of like star players in an MMORPG. As an example, "Carbuncle" is a summoned beast* summoners can summon. However, "Ifrit," "Leviathan," and "Odin" are instead primals*.

編：　どのあたりに線引きがあるのですか？
吉田氏：　感覚論なので難しいですね（笑）。単純に個人が術式で呼び出せてもおかしくないものが召喚獣で、そうでないものが蛮神です。

Ed.: Where exactly is the delineation here?
Yoshida: That's a hard question because it's by feeling (laughs). Basically, something it wouldn't be strange for an individual to call with their own power is a summoned beast, while the rest are primals.

It's pretty clear they do not plan for individuals to summon primals, which at this point in time includes Ifrit, Garuda, Leviathan, Titan, Odin, and probably whatever weird moogle thing. Another question in the same interview states Ramuh and Shiva will also be primals, and thus not available for a single summoner to call.

* I thought I'd take this opportunity to try and clear something up regarding translations. In every single Final Fantasy game in Japanese summons are called by the same name - 召喚獣 (summoned beast). In the English versions different translators have used different terms such as summons, espers, eidolons, and aeons. So for those of us playing in English it seems like "primal" is just another name for summons this time around, but that's not the case. Primals are called 蛮神 (savage god), and that is why you'll see Yoshida mention so many times that they're not just "summoned beasts" but "gods."

[Arcell]

I dunno if you guys missed this but it mite clear a few things up: (Thanks Reinheart for the translation!) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...hl=en_US&pli=1

YoshiP - For post New FFXIV summoning system we have 2 ideas. One is pet type where you can summon monsters or spirits, and for calling out banshin/primal we are thinking of something else. To actually call summon 1 player community can have the right/key to hold and and in 2 weeks having everyone charge their summoning gauge and once summoning it goes back to nature. Summoning with a MMO feel.

GameWatch - Whats your idea on what type of situation can you summon primals?
YoshiP - I think it’s OK to call whenever you like. When you can’t kill the boss in a free company using it as a final card asking “Ifrit beat the crap out of it” or in PvP area taking those heavy (hardcore) players always beating everyone up “Please take them down with one shot”.
It’s OK to go overboard. However you can only use it once and you don’t know when you can kill the next Ifrit and it doesn’t mean that card will come to you next time. When Ifrit gets summoned somewhere it will change the weather of all zones and you can tell someone summoned Ifrit. I think that be FF like MMORPG. It’s just general talk but we have the structure laid out and system is pretty much set so once the server is made we just need to build it.

GameWatch - Job Summoner where you can summon spirits will also be implemented?
YoshiP - We will eventually implement. Pet users are star in MMORPG class. For example carbuncle is a summon a summner can call however “Ifrit” or “Garuda” or “Leviathan” or “Odin” are gods.

GameWatch - At what point is there a line to decide which is which?
YoshiP - That’s hard questions since it depends on feeling (laugh) generally something you can call yourself is summon, and those which you can’t call on own are gods.

GameWatch - How about Shiva or Ramu?
YoshiP - Those two are also planned as gods. Mainly 4 elements and Light/Dark are confirmed gods.

GameWatch - You said calling a monster but can you not taim a monster?
YoshiP - Having pets you can call using MP an those monsters in the area which you can taim; we are preparing both. The design is there so now it’s to work on them, but before that there isn’t much spell users and there isn’t enough cloud control spell so first release jobs then will follow up afterwards.

I have no objections to this idea. Differentiating the Primals as gods makes sense, from the sound of it you won't be able to summon them as pets. I'm guessing they may be available like the one-time attacks, or with the free company system.

So it seems there will be some familiar names, like Carbuncle, who are not Primals but are spirits of some sort. Those will be the pets, which is fine by me. I wonder which monsters and other spirits we'll be able to summon.

[Zanfire]

as i said to my friend this morning when i read they are coming.......


SHIZZAM!


of course a slight bummer with those main summons, but i like how they are getting something special. Their are plenty of other ones to use.

[Vackashken]

Not "Summoner", but summons. Free Companies will be able to call the summons. Summoner isn't oging to be a job itself, it doesn't look like.

Yoshida: We call tell you that we’ve decided to put a Summoner class in the game. I want to be a Summoner.

Excerpt from "The Truth is Out There"

[Tonkra]

thats a little bit weird if i can say so... so you need a group of players (a free company which has the right to summon the typic primal) to summon for example ifrit to launch a powerful attack.

like the Amal'jaa are summoning ifrit together in this vid:
Amal'jaa summoning Ifrit

So lets imagine that this group of Amal'jaa would be a group of players, a free company, so thats how yoshida would like that system to work?

they want to stick to the storyline it seems (summons/primals, like ifrit, leviathan are gods)... well i miss my "real" final fantasy 11 summoner when reading these weird informations


its the first final fantasy i can imagine where it needs a group of players to call one summon