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    Wait wait wait.... Moogle is a summon!?

    Does Fat Chocobo get any fame too? :O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    Wait wait wait.... Moogle is a summon!?

    Does Fat Chocobo get any fame too? :O
    I only say Moogle because they stated that the Primals will be summonable. And Dark Moogle is the next Primal on the fight list.
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    I personally think that's a bit more reasonable than 8 people in a party each summoning their own.
    The group summons the summons, not 8 people each summoning their own.

    I gatehred fromt he future of FFXIV notes that the summons would probably be something more like how they worked in FFXIII or something, though that is of course just a hypothesis.

    The point is, we really don't know what form it will take, but you can probably be sure it's not going to be a clone of FFXI summoner.
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    New summoning ability available to certain jobs and classes after version 2.0.
    New taming ability available to certain jobs and classes after version 2.0.
    Release timing of the above abilities is to coincide with addition of new jobs and classes.
    Summoned and tamed pets will not count as party members, and will develop over time. Release of a
    "companion" system for these pet NPCs to fight alongside PCs.

    Note: this is in the content pdf. All for 2.0 release.

    Gamer Escape: It was mentioned that players will be able to call primal when they’ve defeated them. Does that mean we’ll see Summoner and Beastmaster types of classes and jobs?

    Yoshida: We call tell you that we’ve decided to put a Summoner class in the game. I want to be a Summoner.

    Gamer Escape: There was a tame ability mentioned as well, so does that mean Beastmaster as well?

    Yoshida: Yes. The foundation or system for using pets in battle is currently being made. So yes in the future there will be a beast tamer type of class. Again, it’s all about that adding one class means adding more jobs and all these extra things. So all these jobs won’t come at the same time. It’s all about the priorities, but it is on the list and we are making preparations for it.
    Like one idea could be for example maybe having a beast tamer class and that job would be like a summoner type of job.

    Gamer Escape: So from bunnies to primals then?

    Yoshida: Yeah, yeah, I think seeing how far you could take that class or take that job could be really interesting.

    Gamer Escape: With these pets and summons.. and I believe with Chocobos it was mentioned there would be some type of growth or a way to level them up. Would this be a long term thing where the pet would gradually level over time or a short term thing where the stats of the pet would reset each time you call it?

    Yoshida: Actually it was kind of all put into one thing on that document but there are three different ways to think about this. There’s a buddy system for a companion and then you have a pet system and then the summons. The beast pet would be kind of like in FFXI, where you tame it, use it and then it’s done. So there is no growth with the pet. With Summoner, what we’re thinking of is maybe when you summon for example like Carbuncle… that’s not saying that Carbuncle is coming. It’s just an example! But when you summon it at maybe level 20 there will be certain abilities that it can use and then when the Summoner is level 50, that list will be extended with level 50 abilities. Carbuncle won’t change, it will just be the abilities that it can use. Then you get the buddy system which will be with your Chocobo and your Chocobo will be yours forever. It will have a level and it will power up and grow as you feed it and use it. So yeah there are those three systems. So the confusion there where pets can level up, that’s currently not the case. They’re just a one time thing. It’s Chocobos that will have the levels.
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    Last edited by Zion_Cross; 10-19-2011 at 12:36 PM.

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    Well if a summoner job comes out I still couldn't see them controlling the Primals. I mean we're trying to remove them from Eorzea with good reason lol.
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    This leads me to believe that since all jobs/classes will not get the summoning ability, that they are certainly implying that it will be restricted to one.
    This statement is contradicted by the quotation you gave which says "certain jobs." Jobs is plural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    This statement is contradicted by the quotation you gave which says "certain jobs." Jobs is plural.

    I can edit it if you like. I believe you missed the point.
    Not all classes will have the ability, so this means that either.

    These free company primals won't be available to every class, which would be hard to have a justified reason for.
    OR, that there could be many different types of summons for different classes. And hell, the "taming" aspect could be considered another version of summoning.

    Yoshida has now stated that there will be a summoner class in an interview. He has also stated that primals will be summoned through free companies, which I'm pretty sure is not the same.

    So quit fishing, thanks.

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    Because we don't know EXACTLY how the system will work, there is only speculation.

    For all we know, your Free Company unlocks a primal, but only Summoners within your free company can summon it.

    Or it takes a full party of 8 players from your Free Company to summon it.

    Or it takes a full party of 8 players, one of which has to be a summoner to summon it.
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    I dunno if you guys missed this but it mite clear a few things up: (Thanks Reinheart for the translation!) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...hl=en_US&pli=1

    YoshiP - For post New FFXIV summoning system we have 2 ideas. One is pet type where you can summon monsters or spirits, and for calling out banshin/primal we are thinking of something else. To actually call summon 1 player community can have the right/key to hold and and in 2 weeks having everyone charge their summoning gauge and once summoning it goes back to nature. Summoning with a MMO feel.

    GameWatch - Whats your idea on what type of situation can you summon primals?
    YoshiP - I think it’s OK to call whenever you like. When you can’t kill the boss in a free company using it as a final card asking “Ifrit beat the crap out of it” or in PvP area taking those heavy (hardcore) players always beating everyone up “Please take them down with one shot”.
    It’s OK to go overboard. However you can only use it once and you don’t know when you can kill the next Ifrit and it doesn’t mean that card will come to you next time. When Ifrit gets summoned somewhere it will change the weather of all zones and you can tell someone summoned Ifrit. I think that be FF like MMORPG. It’s just general talk but we have the structure laid out and system is pretty much set so once the server is made we just need to build it.

    GameWatch - Job Summoner where you can summon spirits will also be implemented?
    YoshiP - We will eventually implement. Pet users are star in MMORPG class. For example carbuncle is a summon a summner can call however “Ifrit” or “Garuda” or “Leviathan” or “Odin” are gods.

    GameWatch - At what point is there a line to decide which is which?
    YoshiP - That’s hard questions since it depends on feeling (laugh) generally something you can call yourself is summon, and those which you can’t call on own are gods.

    GameWatch - How about Shiva or Ramu?
    YoshiP - Those two are also planned as gods. Mainly 4 elements and Light/Dark are confirmed gods.

    GameWatch - You said calling a monster but can you not taim a monster?
    YoshiP - Having pets you can call using MP an those monsters in the area which you can taim; we are preparing both. The design is there so now it’s to work on them, but before that there isn’t much spell users and there isn’t enough cloud control spell so first release jobs then will follow up afterwards.
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    Last edited by LittleStar; 10-19-2011 at 02:02 PM.

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    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleStar View Post
    When Ifrit gets summoned somewhere it will change the weather of all zones and you can tell someone summoned Ifrit. I think that be FF like MMORPG.
    The idea of this is pretty epic. Being across the zone when all of a sudden the sky turns red and embers are leaping all around? /wood

    Also, it sounds like they mean to summon primals from a key item, obtained from the primal fight, at a limit of one being held at a time, Trump Card style.
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