Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
You're arguing schemantics at that point. There are people who hunt independantly who get to the hunt - and while calling additional people / after announcing it to their LS's (Such as the ones who pull early, because let's face it - those people are more determined to find out the information to grief than anyone else is to keep them out), they weren't able to form a full party.
You don't need a full party to get credit though. I frequently get full credit solo. It's easiest to do on a tank, but a WHM can also do it. I've never really understood why people hunt on DPS classes if they have any choice in the matter at all.

I also don't understand why people persist in equating "early pulling" with "griefing."

If you're not willing to admit the inverse, then to me that shows your bias - you need to be willing to accept both sides of this.

Basically; neither side is right. Neither side in the scenario I gave did anything to contribute. The only difference is, people fail to see the wrong in pulling ASAP (I'm trying to avoid the word 'early') is just as wrong as the people who ***** and moan about 'early pullers.'
I don't have any bias either way. If people wait, cool. If people pull, oh well. It's a mob in the open world. There are no claim rules for it. It doesn't matter who found it. It can basically be pulled at any time by anyone for any reason. I just roll with it.

Edit: Also wanted to add, that neither really addressed the question, which was : what makes the ASAP-pullers any better than those who want people to wait? Both ride the back of someone elses work, after all.
That's because there's no real answer to that question. Neither can be said to be "better" than the other.