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    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    The only drawback is socially enforced as it should be with open world content.

    When hunts aren't ultra popular people can and will solo kill them with no drawback.
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    If there are sufficient people to kill the hunt it. is. not. early.

    There is no exception.

    Taking work people did and resetting it is a disruption, being more attentive to alerts is not.

    As if that was ever in doubt.
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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    If there are sufficient people to kill the hunt it. is. not. early.

    There is no exception.

    Taking work people did and resetting it is a disruption, being more attentive to alerts is not.

    As if that was ever in doubt.
    Here's a counter question for you:

    What makes the people who get there on the back of someone who found it, pulling it for them before they're ready, any better? Both sides are equally just as bad in my book. I hate the whiners who complain about early pulls. I hate those who go out of their way to grief others by pulling ASAP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Here's a counter question for you:

    What makes the people who get there on the back of someone who found it, pulling it for them before they're ready, any better? Both sides are equally just as bad in my book. I hate the whiners who complain about early pulls. I hate those who go out of their way to grief others by pulling ASAP.
    If you're standing infront of it but somehow not ready, then you're not ready.
    If someone else made it there, and is ready, and they pull, then what's there to complain about? You should have been ready faster. Pulling right away is not griefing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Here's a counter question for you:

    What makes the people who get there on the back of someone who found it, pulling it for them before they're ready, any better? Both sides are equally just as bad in my book. I hate the whiners who complain about early pulls. I hate those who go out of their way to grief others by pulling ASAP.
    If you're there standing in front of the hunt, how are you not ready?

    These are open world mobs, not raid bosses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    If you're there standing in front of the hunt, how are you not ready?

    These are open world mobs, not raid bosses.
    cuz they're "not ready" until 200 of their friends and Linkshell members are there too, and 200 of THEIR friends and linkshell members and....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    cuz they're "not ready" until 200 of their friends and Linkshell members are there too, and 200 of THEIR friends and linkshell members and....
    then 10mins of drama follows on shout lol i dont even do hunts for that reason :P i find it amusing if im in the map and the arguments on shout over early pulls goes on forever :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    then 10mins of drama follows on shout lol i dont even do hunts for that reason :P i find it amusing if im in the map and the arguments on shout over early pulls goes on forever :P
    I actually keep one of these in my inventory for quick linking at hunt drama:

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    Player Ilitsa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    then 10mins of drama follows on shout lol i dont even do hunts for that reason :P i find it amusing if im in the map and the arguments on shout over early pulls goes on forever :P
    its why I avoid hunts too, the "community" ruined the enjoyment. Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    I actually keep one of these in my inventory for quick linking at hunt drama:

    It's things like that, that make me like you, despite having never played together. Lol
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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Here's a counter question for you:

    What makes the people who get there on the back of someone who found it, pulling it for them before they're ready, any better? Both sides are equally just as bad in my book. I hate the whiners who complain about early pulls. I hate those who go out of their way to grief others by pulling ASAP.
    If you're there standing in front of the hunt, how are you not ready?

    These are open world mobs, not raid bosses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
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    If you're standing infront of it but somehow not ready, then you're not ready.
    If someone else made it there, and is ready, and they pull, then what's there to complain about? You should have been ready faster. Pulling right away is not griefing.
    You're arguing schemantics at that point. There are people who hunt independantly who get to the hunt - and while calling additional people / after announcing it to their LS's (Such as the ones who pull early, because let's face it - those people are more determined to find out the information to grief than anyone else is to keep them out), they weren't able to form a full party.

    If you're not willing to admit the inverse, then to me that shows your bias - you need to be willing to accept both sides of this.

    Basically; neither side is right. Neither side in the scenario I gave did anything to contribute. The only difference is, people fail to see the wrong in pulling ASAP (I'm trying to avoid the word 'early') is just as wrong as the people who ***** and moan about 'early pullers.'

    Edit: Also wanted to add, that neither really addressed the question, which was : what makes the ASAP-pullers any better than those who want people to wait? Both ride the back of someone elses work, after all.

    Edit 2: Formatting. I really prefer multiquotes.
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    Last edited by Eidolon; 02-11-2016 at 09:39 AM.

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