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  1. #1
    Player
    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Just got through soloing Marracco, and with that my revenge against the dragon who killed me while I was questing is complete.
    I periodically checked Coerthas for signs of him and finally found him and killed him uninterrupted.

    If someone says in shout or LS "Hey there's this A rank mob here" then you should probably wait since you're not the one who found the mob, though if you stumble across an A rank or S rank then you have every right not to say anything about its location and kill it. (Especially if you solo an S rank, if you do that then I'll be impressed)

    But if you're really that desperate for A rank mobs you should be desperately running around trying to locate them before anyone else.
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    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Jynx Masamune
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    The only drawback is socially enforced as it should be with open world content.

    When hunts aren't ultra popular people can and will solo kill them with no drawback.
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    If there are sufficient people to kill the hunt it. is. not. early.

    There is no exception.

    Taking work people did and resetting it is a disruption, being more attentive to alerts is not.

    As if that was ever in doubt.
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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    If there are sufficient people to kill the hunt it. is. not. early.

    There is no exception.

    Taking work people did and resetting it is a disruption, being more attentive to alerts is not.

    As if that was ever in doubt.
    Here's a counter question for you:

    What makes the people who get there on the back of someone who found it, pulling it for them before they're ready, any better? Both sides are equally just as bad in my book. I hate the whiners who complain about early pulls. I hate those who go out of their way to grief others by pulling ASAP.
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Here's a counter question for you:

    What makes the people who get there on the back of someone who found it, pulling it for them before they're ready, any better? Both sides are equally just as bad in my book. I hate the whiners who complain about early pulls. I hate those who go out of their way to grief others by pulling ASAP.
    If you're standing infront of it but somehow not ready, then you're not ready.
    If someone else made it there, and is ready, and they pull, then what's there to complain about? You should have been ready faster. Pulling right away is not griefing.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Here's a counter question for you:

    What makes the people who get there on the back of someone who found it, pulling it for them before they're ready, any better? Both sides are equally just as bad in my book. I hate the whiners who complain about early pulls. I hate those who go out of their way to grief others by pulling ASAP.
    If you're there standing in front of the hunt, how are you not ready?

    These are open world mobs, not raid bosses.
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    If you're there standing in front of the hunt, how are you not ready?

    These are open world mobs, not raid bosses.
    cuz they're "not ready" until 200 of their friends and Linkshell members are there too, and 200 of THEIR friends and linkshell members and....
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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Here's a counter question for you:

    What makes the people who get there on the back of someone who found it, pulling it for them before they're ready, any better? Both sides are equally just as bad in my book. I hate the whiners who complain about early pulls. I hate those who go out of their way to grief others by pulling ASAP.
    If you're there standing in front of the hunt, how are you not ready?

    These are open world mobs, not raid bosses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
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    If you're standing infront of it but somehow not ready, then you're not ready.
    If someone else made it there, and is ready, and they pull, then what's there to complain about? You should have been ready faster. Pulling right away is not griefing.
    You're arguing schemantics at that point. There are people who hunt independantly who get to the hunt - and while calling additional people / after announcing it to their LS's (Such as the ones who pull early, because let's face it - those people are more determined to find out the information to grief than anyone else is to keep them out), they weren't able to form a full party.

    If you're not willing to admit the inverse, then to me that shows your bias - you need to be willing to accept both sides of this.

    Basically; neither side is right. Neither side in the scenario I gave did anything to contribute. The only difference is, people fail to see the wrong in pulling ASAP (I'm trying to avoid the word 'early') is just as wrong as the people who ***** and moan about 'early pullers.'

    Edit: Also wanted to add, that neither really addressed the question, which was : what makes the ASAP-pullers any better than those who want people to wait? Both ride the back of someone elses work, after all.

    Edit 2: Formatting. I really prefer multiquotes.
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    Last edited by Eidolon; 02-11-2016 at 09:39 AM.

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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    I don't know why people are going nuts over the hunts. Other than that dragon mount and possibly whatever glamours from the 2.0 vendors, there's really nothing worth it to be losing your sanity.
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    Melchior Ballester
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusFahlen View Post

    and so you mean to reset is to disrupting other players. but it is not disrupting other players then you pull befor no one is ther so it is only 4 who get it and like 8 players becioms mad for they dont get anyting for that person pulled then they were on the way
    A player who resets a hunt should be reported, because other players could have been there on time and died from some moves after dealing enough dmg to get full reward, then the reset comes and the reward turns to nothing. That's grievous. Pulling early is not grievous.
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