ninja pulling hunts

[_slowpoke_]

explore the game world in the hope that maybe there's a A or S rank lurking in the area.

That's not how most hunting is actually done, though. You don't just go around hoping to stumble upon hunts, it's pretty systematic, actually. Especially for S ranks, which need to be spawned. This is usually done by a pretty small group of players, who often do this constantly and are pretty knowledgeable about all the details, like respawn windows, spawning mechanisms, and spawn locations. On Cerberus it's probably not more than a dozen of players who spawn 80% of the S ranks.

Many of the A ranks are hunted in dedicated parties, where it's common to first announce hunts in party chat, allow everyone who helped scout to get there, and only then shout and post to linkshells. They then usually wait for 3-6 minutes depending on how long it takes to get to the location from the nearest port, then pull. Since they did 90% of the work, it's pretty unreasonable to expect them to wait for half an our until the entire server has gotten their lazy bums there. If you wanna get guaranteed credit for hunts, join a hunting party. It's a lot of fun and way more satisfying than just showing up to quickly kill something that someone else found.

[Ashkendor]

and so you mean to reset is to disrupting other players. but it is not disrupting other players then you pull befor no one is ther so it is only 4 who get it and like 8 players becioms mad for they dont get anyting for that person pulled then they were on the way

Hunts are open world mobs and while it may be more socially acceptable to wait for others and share them, players are actually under no obligation to do so. "Early pulling" doesn't disrupt anyone. If you weren't fast enough to get to the hunt, that's not the fault of the people that are already there fighting the hunt mob. In many cases, it's the fault of the player themselves for going to the wrong teleport (i.e. the mob spawns near Mist but they teleported to Moraby). If you miss a hunt, you just have to try and find the most efficient way to get around so you can be faster getting to the next one. Honestly, most of the people that I see whining about early pulling don't even hunt anyway. I can player search them at any given time and see them sitting and crafting in town or something. It's even funnier when they whine about not making it to rarer S ranks like Nunyunuwi when they basically have to be actively ignoring an hour's worth of FATE grinding, shouting, and Party Finders saying the dang thing is gonna spawn.

Resetting a hunt, on the other hand, actively disrupts combat for everyone that's already there and engaged with the mob. If successful, it completely erases whatever credit they've earned on it, plus it almost always adds more people into the mix. This is unfair to the people that were already there. For example, I go on Warrior and pop Unchained + Berserk to ensure maximum credit even when solo. When someone resets the mob, I don't have those cooldowns back and my ability to generate aggro is vastly diminished. If I'm solo or in a smaller party, I may not get full credit when it's re-engaged as a result.

[Tagihi]

peppole ninja pulling hunts ..

well first of all IF you don't hunt sitting afk waiting for somone to text in linkshell about spawn its ur self to blame.
IF you hunt party you maybe be first on spot to do w/e you want.

People may call it greedy but its hunt afterall. If i miss one then its my own fault sitting semi afk testing glamour on marketboard..

[Yukiko]

well first of all IF you don't hunt sitting afk waiting for somone to text in linkshell about spawn its ur self to blame.
IF you hunt party you maybe be first on spot to do w/e you want.

People may call it greedy but its hunt afterall. If i miss one then its my own fault sitting semi afk testing glamour on marketboard..

Do you really hunt? What you describe isn't reality on my server!
If you are active hunting you are on the disadvantage because before you reach the hunt its already dead. It happens very often that you can not reach it in time because you were on other side of the map. Active hunting means to search for it and it will not spawn in front of you!

[ChocoFeru]

I've heard that on JP servers, people just auto-attacks while tank/healers builds aggro, so everyone gets bonus and fight lasts long enough for everyone.

That's why I always go as healer, to spamm AoE healing and get full reward instead of killing it faster :S

[Darko]

I've heard that on JP servers, people just auto-attacks while tank/healers builds aggro, so everyone gets bonus and fight lasts long enough for everyone.

That's why I always go as healer, to spamm AoE healing and get full reward instead of killing it faster :S

^this

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[LunaChild]

I've heard that on JP servers, people just auto-attacks while tank/healers builds aggro, so everyone gets bonus and fight lasts long enough for everyone.

That's why I always go as healer, to spamm AoE healing and get full reward instead of killing it faster :S

For my server, everyone killing it normally but (almost) everyone still get full credit unless you arrive when it almost die.
We just didn't wait for the whole server to come and slaughter it, we normally wait about 1-2 min then start for A-rank or about 4-5 parties for S-rank.

I never heard anyone complain about fast pull except when tomestone and seal is on high demand (early Anima patch for example) and some party kill 2.0 S-rank as soon as it spawn while there's a lot of parties searching for it in same map and once they arrive, it already die.

[Malzian]

As always, my comment on this topic is sitting in my signature...

[Lone-wolfe-02]

The GM has the right of it. Hunts are first come first serve they aren't meant to be done with half the server, if you want to avoid losing out on the rewards then actually scout for the hunts yourself.

Because of this there is no such thing as early pulling.

[Malicewolf]

As much as I hate early pulls (like, when it's called out and I get there in less than a minute and they killed it and I'm with a large pack of players all coming) I have to agree with everyone here. It's not against any rules for them to pull it. The only way to curb that behavior is that no one else helps them and lets them die. But people panic when pulls happen and don't want to miss out, so they join to maximize their rewards (thus enabling). But early pullers really only need a few to help them unless it's a particularly hard hunt, which is why everyone just joins anyways. It's unfortunate, but nothing can be done except if you're server sets something up themselves.