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    People who truly want to optimize vs selfish players.

    MT: "Can you tone it down on the BB please?"
    OT: "Can you tone it down on the badness?" *cleaves the raid*.

    Lets just give BB a frontal positional. Surely then the people who say that the OT ripping hate (by spamming BB mindlessly) should be MT will be made easier if they already are in the front of the boss right? Triggers a proc for more damage if cleaved.


    Sorry i'm not usually this sarcastic and rude, but some of the post here just have me a bit salty lol. People forget this is an MMO not a MSPO. Teamwork is often overlooked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameplayzero View Post
    Lets just give BB a frontal positional.
    This is interesting. Although you'd see some people getting cleaved to get that extra damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    This is interesting. Although you'd see some people getting cleaved to get that extra damage.
    if there is anything to take away from this forum, I think a good chunk of players would definitely do that. No matter if it was a 5% more potency boost. Most likely blaming the healer if they died.

    but off topic, having OT positionals would be very interesting in theory. Idk how well the reception would be depending on how many positional the tanks would have. I'd be all for a few specific moves or "combo enders" designed to be like that in the future but only a few.

    Maybe I should make another topic about this lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameplayzero View Post
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    Lets just give BB a frontal positional. Surely then the people who say that the OT ripping hate (by spamming BB mindlessly) should be MT will be made easier if they already are in the front of the boss right? Triggers a proc for more damage if cleaved. .
    Good idea, bad integration.

    Problem with this is, sometimes as a tank, you have to dodge or move fast inside a combo(lower end- dodging a succubus' thunder casts, high end? Dragon gaze) where the fastest route is through the Boss/Mob sprite. I would lose that attack by moving out of the "front" positional. Where now when I'm running under the Minotaur's legs to dodge his Swing attack and still landing a BB, I'd have to eat it to land BB and wish for a proc to reward me for being a bad tank for eating dodge-able damage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Good idea, bad integration.
    well the post you quoted was mainly just a bad joke. People doing mindless BB spam are most likely going to be tanking if they rip aggro and soon will be in front of the boss anyways lol. Was me just being sarcastic since thats what MT warriors do if they have another warrior as OT who actually applies storms eye. Just BB when they can.

    Now the second post was me being legitimate. But I forgot that the issue is that you can't hit those positionals if you are MTing in your dps stance. Which really sucks. I mean you can argue thats a way to make it so tanks still do less damage in comparison but eh. I guess the balancing thing would be to make the potency increase from the positionals a lot better so that its still worthwhile for OT in dps stance? But that could come with it fair share of problems as well :/. And I can't just say specifically make the OT have positionals cause thats overly complicated to design imo. Like how Ravana specifically pelts the OT during a phase. In a fantasy world that would be a nice way to do it, but thats not how it is. There would have be a lot of work around to this.

    But with some people hating on tank damage as it is, giving them pseudo dps mechanics might just make some of the fanbase even angrier if tank damage doesn't get nerfed that hard next patch.
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    Last edited by Gameplayzero; 02-12-2016 at 06:25 AM.