Tanks using their enmity combo while being OT

[Syzygian]

If we want to talk optimal min/max, you have the WAR pull with NIN Shade Walker + early 3x FC (pre-Infuriate + RI @ 1s etc) so that Vengeance ticks hit the boss and WAR is in Deliverance asap.

Could you not also have the WAR do the same thing except OT, Shadewalker the DRK as he pulls out of Grit, and achieve the exact same DPS + Reprisal/Low Blow Procs and a 4x DASE chain thanks to BP+BW at the cost of some Vengeance counterattacks?

Storm's Path being a selling point was news to me up until Heavensward, despite picking it up in 2.0 for a bit. It wasn't even until I started browsing the forums that I noticed people claiming it was the greatest thing ever, and yet I have never found any particular reason to use it in most content, except while leveling 38-49 for it's minor self heal when I saw the healer was having a hard time for whatever reason. Warrior's selling point back then was Inner Beast.

Okay, I apologize, but at this point I have to stop and ask if you even raid.

[SpookyGhost]

Could you not also have the WAR do the same thing except OT, Shadewalker the DRK as he pulls out of Grit, and achieve the exact same DPS + Reprisal/Low Blow Procs and a 4x DASE chain thanks to BP+BW at the cost of some Vengeance counterattacks?

Depends on the fight (mainly if the boss stops attacking for any periods in the opening), but Vengeance is a 15s 50 potency reflect buffed by Berserk, IR, potion (iirc), and crit stacks. Pretty strong, dunno if Reprisal/Low Blow/extra DASE would make up for it, but haven't exactly mapped it out.

As a side note, with a DRK/WAR composition during early progression, it's better to have the DRK pull just to have Reprisal and Path up asap. Usually this is what you start with, and unless the DPS check is suuuuuuper tight you don't really want to start switching roles around.

[Instrumentality]

Depends on the fight (mainly if the boss stops attacking for any periods in the opening), but Vengeance is a 15s 50 potency reflect buffed by Berserk, IR, potion (iirc), and crit stacks. Pretty strong, dunno if Reprisal/Low Blow/extra DASE would make up for it, but haven't exactly mapped it out.

Vengeance return hits can crit? Is that a thing that happens?

[SpookyGhost]

Vengeance return hits can crit? Is that a thing that happens?

I can't imagine they wouldn't be able to, they're 50 potency attacks so they should be subject to crit% like normal attacks, dots, heals, etc.

If for some reason they're not, it's still a 50 potency reflect buffed by Berserk which on its own is pretty dang strong.

[Iagainsti]

I can't imagine they wouldn't be able to, they're 50 potency attacks so they should be subject to crit% like normal attacks, dots, heals, etc.

If for some reason they're not, it's still a 50 potency reflect buffed by Berserk which on its own is pretty dang strong.

I can confirm Vengeance reflect hits do crit; I play with floating damage texts on and see them constantly.