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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Nobody's having enmity issues. We are talking about maximising group DPS, you know, the thing you're not doing.
    I really wonder how can someone completly miss the point, even after it being repeated over and over for 12 pages. It's kind of impressive and sad at the same time.
    That's exactly the point though. If you DO want to maximize DPS, you have the Warrior MT, and the other tank go OT. THAT is actually maximizing group DPS. A paladin or Dark Knight MT isn't maximum DPS, it's always been Warrior MT for maximum DPS.

    This is of course assuming that we're talking DPS stance main tanking. Last I remember, DRK beats out Warrior MT DPS in any situation wherein 100% tank stance up time is required, but only then, last I'd heard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    WAR on the other hand, while having access to unchained every 2 mins, still loses at least 800 potency if you count an average of 4 fell cleaves per min. also you won't use inner beast asap considering it's a defence tool and unchained needs wrath stacks aswell.
    These numbers only hold true if you need to stay in tank stance for the entirety of the fight, which only happens when your first concern is 'survivbility and progressing through an encounter'. Typically, DPS only starts entering the equation once the group has already hit enrage, which is the point at which tanks start fine tuning their usage of cooldowns to minimize or even potentially eradicate tank stance up time. During this stage of an encounter, with 100% tank stance uptime, DRK DPS beats out Warrior's due to the mentioned points.

    Once it gets down to actually farming the instance, though, Warrior MT DPS beats out everyone else by a rather wide margin. (I believe stated numbers were DRK 8% behind Warrior's total MT DPS?) This happens because a Warrior can much more easily push both hate and DPS then either other tank, rendering it a moot point.
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 02-09-2016 at 04:15 PM. Reason: Clarification.