Tanks using their enmity combo while being OT

[Whiteroom]

Is this a problem when your running on DRK? What is your enmity rotation? Ilvl?

He has a 205 weapon, 210 left side, 2/3 ilvl 190 fend/slay mix on right. Shouldn't be having enough enmity issues to have to create this thread.

[WolfKid]

Is this a problem when your running on DRK? What is your enmity rotation? Ilvl?

What makes you think i have a problem?

[Rawrz]

What makes you think i have a problem?

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He has a 205 weapon, 210 left side, 2/3 ilvl 190 fend/slay mix on right. Shouldn't be having enough enmity issues to have to create this thread.

This thread....

[karateorangutang]

What makes you think i have a problem?

The entire title of the thread....

I'm just gonna leave this thread alone it's completely confusing now.

[WolfKid]

To be fair people, I never said I had problems myself now did I?

[Alistaire]

To be fair people, I never said I had problems myself now did I?

So you made a thread about a problem you don't have, assuming it's a problem at all? OK then.

[Torunya]

I just realized this thread was about enmity combo and not tank stance. Excuse me while I just fade away. >.>

[Lyth]

There was recently a discussion and analysis on this subject: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._their_threat/

Here's the summary:
The highest potency combo on WAR is also their highest threat combo (with an inbuilt enmity modifier of 3x on the second hit and 6x on the third hit). The same is not true for PLD or DRK - the highest dps combo for these classes generates no additional enmity. It is an overall raid-wide dps loss for a PLD or DRK MT to use their threat combo just to hold aggro off of an OT WAR spamming BB/SE (i.e. we can do it easily, but it hurts our dps more than it does yours). It is also a raid-wide DPS loss for PLD or DRK to OT, because every reprisal proc is equivalent to 9 BB combos, and every shield swipe proc is equivalent to 5 BB combos. If you're about to take aggro as a WAR OT, either weave in an SP combo to boost healer dps, or if the thought of a 40 potency loss every 3 GCDs is too painful, just double SE and take a 20 potency loss instead. Your raid group will love you for it, and you'll get to feel almost as awesome as you did before.

[Fyce]

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This is right.

Here's a tl;dr for the sake of this thread and for lazy people: if your BB combo forces your MT into doing more enmity combo to keep aggro, then it's an overall raid-wide DPS loss (if your MT isn't also a WAR, obviously).

[Jim_Berry]

Could you stop this? I see a lot of tanks doing this, mostly WARs. You have no need to be doing that while you're off tanking. The only exception are PLD since they are reducing physical damage a boss does, but they shouldn't be spamming it. Tanks wonder why they're ripping hate off a MT, that's cause you're doing it on purpose.

As a PLD, I do it to reduce the enemy's STR, but I wait until like 30 seconds or so AFTER MT pulled and established aggro. Sometimes, it's not my fault if the MT decides to drop his tank stance.

And I don't spam it. I comes third for every combo, with Royal Authority and Goring Blade being first sets. The ticks for Halone is low at that point, so it could appear as if I'm spamming.

This is usually one reason why I have more MT than OT experience.