I find it completely sad. (Questing)

[Defias]

As a fellow Lore buff, and someone who spent weeks & months learning the Lore of EQ, EQoA, and EQ II. I can say this...

You are full of it.

This game is FULL of Lore. Brimming with it.
However this game is not Voiced like EQ 2 so it is easier to "miss" the Lore.

Quest Journal dialogue, FATE dialogue, FATE flavour text, cutscene dialogue, Sidequests, MSQ, and the NPCs in town, they all have little tidbits of lore.
Talking to NPCs between Quest stages, talking to merchants, standing by NPCs who speak as you walk/pass by.

The Lore for this game is RICH. It's one reason why I play this game so much. Perhaps because I play Solo, I spend more time indulging in the world vs rushing to the cap & endgame content.

But as a result I have a deep understanding of each City-State's political system, the cycle of Life & Death & the lifestream, how to communicate with Elementals & how difficult it is, how Summoning Primals works, the importance of Aether to the world, as well as the cycle of Umbral & Astral eras along with the key differences between an Astral Era and an Umbral era and their effects on the world, the behavior and breeding habits of Chocobos, the mindset & beliefs of Dragons, an insight into the cultures of Beastmen, as well as a history of each Class and the backstory/history of the Jobs.

That said, you have 1 valid point.
As of right now the only Races to truly get fleshed out has been the Wildwood Elezen. While Miqo'te lore has been touched upon and somewhat exposed.
Sea Wolf Roegadyn have been touched upon too.
However we have not had any true lore on Hellsguard Roegadyn, Duskwight Elezen, Hyur (both tribes), Aura (We know they hail from Doma), and Lalafell (both tribes).

I admit it is disappointing but honestly as this is a persistent RPG, as we get patches and expansions I expect more Lore to be revealed and added.

Everquest didn't start right off the bat filled to the brim with Lore. A lot of it developed and was revealed as time went on and the game grew.
We only had rough backgrounds to the Elves, Dwarves, and etc. It wasn't until I'd say around the time Shadows of Luclin hit that all the Races had a deep backstory.
EQ2 took place 500 years later so that game had a lot of pre-established Lore.

[Torunya]

Or just use the ignore feature this forum has. It's quite handy.

The sass is strong with this one.

[Pomelo]

Or just use the ignore feature this forum has. It's quite handy.

Does this actually exist? I hope so...and where? :3

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Does this actually exist? I hope so...and where? :3

Click user's name, view profile, click "add to ignore list". It hides all their posts, but it still says that they posted something. You'll still see their posts if someone quotes them as well.

[TouchandFeel]

This game practically shoves tidbits of lore into your pockets. You just aren't paying attention.

They, the OP, have openly stated in previous threads that they think the story is "dumb" and that they don't bother reading quest text and other such things and just click through it. So it goes beyond even not paying attention to intentionally and actively ignoring and avoiding it. They then turn around and make a thread like this maligning that there isn't any lore or story to the world. It's hypocrisy at it's best.

Because it's fun to watch him flail absurdly and try to justify his ridiculous arguments.

Yep, face-palm inducing fun, like watching internet videos of dumb people injuring themselves.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

As a fellow Lore buff, and someone who spent weeks & months learning the Lore of EQ, EQoA, and EQ II. I can say this...

You are full of it.

This game is FULL of Lore. Brimming with it.
However this game is not Voiced like EQ 2 so it is easier to "miss" the Lore.

Quest Journal dialogue, FATE dialogue, FATE flavour text, cutscene dialogue, Sidequests, MSQ, and the NPCs in town, they all have little tidbits of lore.
Talking to NPCs between Quest stages, talking to merchants, standing by NPCs who speak as you walk/pass by.

The Lore for this game is RICH. It's one reason why I play this game so much. Perhaps because I play Solo, I spend more time indulging in the world vs rushing to the cap & endgame content.

But as a result I have a deep understanding of each City-State's political system, the cycle of Life & Death & the lifestream, how to communicate with Elementals & how difficult it is, how Summoning Primals works, the importance of Aether to the world, as well as the cycle of Umbral & Astral eras along with the key differences between an Astral Era and an Umbral era and their effects on the world, the behavior and breeding habits of Chocobos, the mindset & beliefs of Dragons, an insight into the cultures of Beastmen, as well as a history of each Class and the backstory/history of the Jobs.

That said, you have 1 valid point.
As of right now the only Races to truly get fleshed out has been the Wildwood Elezen. While Miqo'te lore has been touched upon and somewhat exposed.
Sea Wolf Roegadyn have been touched upon too.
However we have not had any true lore on Hellsguard Roegadyn, Duskwight Elezen, Hyur (both tribes), Aura (We know they hail from Doma), and Lalafell (both tribes).

I admit it is disappointing but honestly as this is a persistent RPG, as we get patches and expansions I expect more Lore to be revealed and added.

Everquest didn't start right off the bat filled to the brim with Lore. A lot of it developed and was revealed as time went on and the game grew.
We only had rough backgrounds to the Elves, Dwarves, and etc. It wasn't until I'd say around the time Shadows of Luclin hit that all the Races had a deep backstory.
EQ2 took place 500 years later so that game had a lot of pre-established Lore.

It has almost none of the little things that EQ had, and its side quests are filled to the brim with nothing special. For example, let me go to a random town in Gridania.

Sidequest 1:
Find 10 apples, no other information.

Sidequest 2:
Kill 6 poachers, why? Nobody knows, no other information.

Sidequest 3:
Kill 10 flowery things. Why? Because its a sidequest.

Talking to people:
Tells me about the most obvious thing of the town, but not why or when, or how.

Yeah, the game does have a tiny tidbit of lore hidden, but it isn't obvious or INTERESTING. Most of the INTERESTING lore is actually not in the game at all. In fact, I think some of the best lore for the game was scrapped when they remade it.

They, the OP, have openly stated in previous threads that they think the story is "dumb" and that they don't bother reading quest text and other such things and just click through it. So it goes beyond even not paying attention to intentionally and actively ignoring and avoiding it. They then turn around and make a thread like this maligning that there isn't any lore or story to the world. It's hypocrisy at it's best.

A lot of quests actually have no lore at all in them in this game. Sure some do, but I would say the majority do not.

Maybe in the Japanese version of the game, but not the English one. I heard they got rid of a bunch of interesting stories and romance options from the Japanese version.

[AskaRay]

lolsy

Well when you shorten and describe ANY sidequest in any game, it's like that. Good job.
For example, some of the quests in Shin Megami Tensei IV, using your logic they look like this:
Kill a demon.
Kill a demon.
Kill a demon.
Kill a crazy cultist.

Get the point?

[TouchandFeel]

A lot of quests actually have no lore at all in them in this game. Sure some do, but I would say the majority do not.

Maybe in the Japanese version of the game, but not the English one. I heard they got rid of a bunch of interesting stories and romance options from the Japanese version.

Every MMORPG and pretty much every CRPG has filler quests such as "kill 10 boar", even *gasp* EQ, hell in a way they sort of made it the norm for other MMO's to follow suit.
Also, while every side-quest may not be brimming with grandious world lore, most tell a small story, such as a Woodwailer shirking their duties because they joined the order for power and glory but realized that they are a bit of a coward, or that bandits are becoming more bold recently and have been raiding supply caravans in the area so they need food supplies which you can help get by hunting boar. Some of these mini stories are good, some are bad and cliché, but they are still little tidbits that give you information on the world and its people and often add up to paint a bigger picture.

Also, I've " heard" a lot of things, it doesn't make them true. From what I have seen with comparisons of the two versions, the only really changes that were made were some slight tonal changes due to cultural differences such as the toning down of Haurchefant's obsession with the WoL and differences due to trying to translate complex ideas between pretty different languages where sometimes direct translation is virtually impossible.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Well when you shorten and describe ANY sidequest in any game, it's like that. Good job.
For example, some of the quests in Shin Megami Tensei IV, using your logic they look like this:
Kill a demon.
Kill a demon.
Kill a demon.
Kill a crazy cultist.

Get the point?

Then at the end of the quest, it explains why. Also at the very beginning, it explains why. I played Persona you know.

Every MMORPG and pretty much every CRPG has filler quests such as "kill 10 boar", even *gasp* EQ, hell in a way they sort of made it the norm for other MMO's to follow suit.
Also, while every side-quest may not be brimming with grandious world lore, most tell a small story, such as a Woodwailer shirking their duties because they joined the order for power and glory but realized that they are a bit of a coward, or that bandits are becoming more bold recently and have been raiding supply caravans in the area so they need food supplies which you can help get by hunting boar. Some of these mini stories are good, some are bad and cliché, but they are still little tidbits that give you information on the world and its people.

Also, I've " heard" a lot of things, it doesn't make them true. From what I have seen with comparisons of the two versions, the only really changes that were made were some slight tonal changes due to cultural differences such as the toning down of Haurchefant's obsession with the WoL and differences due to trying to translate complex ideas between pretty different languages where sometimes direct translation is virtually impossible.

Nobody who plays Everquest ever quested. 99% of the lore was in what citizens would do, say openly and how they would act and how the terrain and environment looked.

For example, Nektulos Castle, there are books scatted all over the place with tons of lore, NOT even quests.

Well, you have to argue with it to them. Since they said the quests are filled "to the brim" with such lore.

[Twilite]

I use my imagination for all the dungeons, except the story-based ones obviously.