Proposal to scrap the +1 +2 +3 feature from gear

[Peregrine]

Our shell cook +2'd a final cul dish with 89 quality, after December. To my knowledge they're the only one in the shell who has broken into +2 with sub-100 quality on a final product. No one has done it on a material. I've never done it that's for sure. I +2'd an oak cane in beta with 84 quality, but that was beta.

I would like to see how they handle 4 qualities of every piece of gear before saying it needs to go. +1 and +2 may help soften the blow between the **** prices that are NQ pieces and the ridiculous millions upon millions the +3s will cost. Maybe +1s will be cheap and +2s will be affordably expensive.

But it's a very hard system to balance. They may have bitten off more than they can chew.
If it turns into an economic nightmare they can always simplify it.

[Rentahamster]

Don't need to scrap the feature, but they do need to make the process of achieving HQ less random and more consistent.

[Kimahri]

It in fact is relevant to your thread.



You can not get HQ 2 if your quality is under 100.

You can not get HQ 3 if your quality is under 200.

If you're going to post some random stupidity to act as a dictator in order to feel good, the Internet isn't for you. Do me a favour, understand what you post beforehand.

Well. First of all, don't get your panties in a bunch. It seems that I have at least 3 witnesses that says they(Or someone they witnessed) do it as well. Secondly. Would you like to see my chocobotail saw+2? I have yet to reach over 100 while trying to SKILL UP on an item. If I was a "Dictator" things would go the way I say they go, so why would I need a thread in the first place? The fact is I asked you nicely to keep the negative comments out of my thread. Now shut up this time, PLEASE!

[MariyaShidou]

Well. First of all, don't get your panties in a bunch. It seems that I have at least 3 witnesses that says they(Or someone they witnessed) do it as well. Secondly. Would you like to see my chocobotail saw+2? I have yet to reach over 100 while trying to SKILL UP on an item. If I was a "Dictator" things would go the way I say they go, so why would I need a thread in the first place? The fact is I asked you nicely to keep the negative comments out of my thread. Now shut up this time, PLEASE!

Lol, when I asked to post a proof, you took that as negative comments and ask me to shut up. Yet you are saying you want a democratic civilised discussion going on, where if anyone post anything that you don't want to hear need to GTFO? This is amazing, and no I will not shut up. Proof? Some witness and all, please post PROOF.

[Kimahri]

Lol, when I asked to post a proof, you took that as negative comments and ask me to shut up. Yet you are saying you want a democratic civilised discussion going on, where if anyone post anything that you don't want to hear need to GTFO? This is amazing, and no I will not shut up. Proof? Some witness and all, please post PROOF.

Oh for the love of God! You're completely wrong, par usual. On my first post, if you would care to scroll back. I asked that if you didn't have anything to say that doesn't help with the topic at hand, then please not to post. Now I'm done talking with you on this thread. Please leave my thread alone. I'm simply trying to say that this system of synthing is currently flawed and that HQ+3 for everything seems a rather joke. If you have a suggestion to make it better than please post it. If not, then don't post.

And also I'm very sorry but I don't keep a camera around me at all times when I synth an HQ'd item.

[MariyaShidou]

I will not, because what I'm saying is in fact contradicting against your claim so it does have every right to be in here: HQ does need a quality threshold to happen. And while you did not post any evidence to back your claim you're asking me to shut up and call me a moron.

P.S: You don't own this board.

[origamikitsune]

Posting evidence. I, personally, have have had HQ results below 100 quality. I have, in fact, had HQ +1, +2, and +3 with less than 100 quality. It happens steadily (if infrequently) when I use hasty hands to blow through large stacks of fish to make shards. I will endeavor to acquire a screenshot next time I do it.

[Kimahri]

I will not, because what I'm saying is in fact contradicting against your claim so it does have every right to be in here: HQ does need a quality threshold to happen. And while you did not post any evidence to back your claim you're asking me to shut up and call me a moron.

P.S: You don't own this board.

Why do I have to go strolling through the internet to pull up statistics? I play games, but I don't consider myself that much of a nerd to do statistics pulling for a game. I'm going based on what I've seen. By the way, good job on pulling up some statistics to the other thread!

Now as you agreed the Quality is currently a problem, I still don't need to post any evidence when other's have confirmed the same accounts I have stated. (And you did, too! Damn! I got your ass on that one!) I guess another piece of my evidence to your claims saying you can't obtain an HQ+2 without first achieving a minimum 100 Quality is that I have an item with a +2 at the end of it after synthing it for a new saw! Not to mention the others on this post that testified with the same claim? Now I will say this was back when the game first started, so I don't know if it's patched. So maybe you can clear it up for me?

P.S. I do own this thread. I could delete it in the blink of an eye, but I don't get my panties in a bunch over a Negative Nancy such as yourself.

[MariyaShidou]

Why do I have to go strolling through the internet to pull up statistics? I play games, but I don't consider myself that much of a nerd to do statistics pulling for a game. I'm going based on what I've seen. By the way, good job on pulling up some statistics to the other thread!

Now as you agreed the Quality is currently a problem, I still don't need to post any evidence when other's have confirmed the same accounts I have stated. (And you did, too! Damn! I got your ass on that one!) I guess another piece of my evidence to your claims saying you can't obtain an HQ+2 without first achieving a minimum 100 Quality is that I have an item with a +2 at the end of it after synthing it for a new saw! Not to mention the others on this post that testified with the same claim? Now I will say this was back when the game first started, so I don't know if it's patched. So maybe you can clear it up for me?

P.S. I do own this thread. I could delete it in the blink of an eye, but I don't get my panties in a bunch over a Negative Nancy such as yourself.

Yea, when I ask for proof you're claiming your words as proof. Why, I have this piece of proof that is in fact more believable than yours.

Q.What type of attributes and stats are best for crafting classes?

A.Attributes themselves have little influence over the progression of an actual act of synthesis. The higher the stats on the tool being used to craft, however, the easier it will be for the Quality value of the synthesized item to increase. Though results vary from recipe to recipe, a higher Quality value means that a synthesis attempt is more likely to produce either a high-quality item,* or a high-quantity yield.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...6231be64ae068b

P.S: I will neither leave the thread or shut up like you asked.

[Peregrine]

Dammit don't tell me the best way to +3 items is a hasty hand glitch that unlocks impossible +3s. All those ores...all bolded...my god the time spent...