The Point of DRKness

[IskarJarak]

Only thing that baffles me is why they call it Dark Knight instead of Blackguard. The class just feels like a Dark version of Paladin that just specializes in MP management and mitigating magical damage as it's main gimmick.

In the Japanese version Paladin is Knight, so... Dark Knight actually makes sense if you follow your own logic. :P

[Syzygian]

This entire notion that is being perpetuated that DRK is bad anywhere outside of Alex Savage is complete garbage as is the notion that if they buff PLD's damage (PLD is getting adjustments but I highly doubt this means a DPS boost up to DRK/WAR levels... it doesn't make any sense from a design perspective) DRK will be obsolete.

I've offered to go PLD for certain fights for my raid group, and they've all chanted "NO" at the top of their lungs. The fact is DRK proved itself as a tank in the most difficult tier of raids the dev team has put out to date, and they've come right out and said it'll never be that hard again for the foreseeable future. People like to say "oh well its only because blah blah all the fights are magical..." bullshit. A2S was almost 100% physical, A3S for all intents and purposes was 100% physical as well with the sole exception of drainage tethers.

I hope PLD gets some nice buffs too but its a far cry from rendering DRK obsolete. Its an entirely different tank with different utilities. If anything I would hope the pally buffs can make the DRK/PLD comp feasible.

[Martin_Arcainess]

Even if PLD out DPS'ed DRK I still roll DRK over purely for AOE damage and being the only tank with Magic attacks.

Also it's Dark freaking Knight!

[Hysterior]

because lot of PLD moved to DRK to progress in Alex
if PLD gets buffed, some will go back to PLD
Not sure why this is an issue...

[MagiusNecros]

In the Japanese version Paladin is Knight, so... Dark Knight actually makes sense if you follow your own logic. :P

Guess my problem is this version of Dark Knight is different from the other versions of the Dark Knight in the series.

[AlexiIvaniskavich]

This entire notion that is being perpetuated that DRK is bad anywhere outside of Alex Savage is complete garbage as is the notion that if they buff PLD's damage (PLD is getting adjustments but I highly doubt this means a DPS boost up to DRK/WAR levels... it doesn't make any sense from a design perspective) DRK will be obsolete.

I've offered to go PLD for certain fights for my raid group, and they've all chanted "NO" at the top of their lungs. The fact is DRK proved itself as a tank in the most difficult tier of raids the dev team has put out to date, and they've come right out and said it'll never be that hard again for the foreseeable future. People like to say "oh well its only because blah blah all the fights are magical..." bullshit. A2S was almost 100% physical, A3S for all intents and purposes was 100% physical as well with the sole exception of drainage tethers.

When we were first working on ThorEx, I rolled both DRK and PLD. I asked the healers which class they liked better for dealing with the damage. The answer was a resounding "meh". There wasn't really any difference in their eyes. I ended up staying as PLD on that fight for 2 reasons 1) I was rolling as DRK on almost all other Raid content, and 2) We PUG ThorEx more often, and I like to roll in there on the weakest class (based on damage output) because I do bring the damage, and it is a nice reminder that PLD's can do reasonable damage.

[MiniPrinny]

Only thing that baffles me is why they call it Dark Knight instead of Blackguard.

If you paid attention to the post-50 Job quests, we're better knights than the knights of Ishgard. We're pretty much the enforcers of the law, we go where the law enforcers dare not to enforce the law upon the law enforcers.

[MagiusNecros]

If you paid attention to the post-50 Job quests, we're better knights than the knights of Ishgard. We're pretty much the enforcers of the law, we go where the law enforcers dare not to enforce the law upon the law enforcers.

Which honestly has little to do with the "Abyss" and was full "bodyguard duty" and discover "love and friendship" with "Moogles".

30-50 arc was amazing. And then they backpedaled massively 50-60.

[Galgarion]

Which honestly has little to do with the "Abyss" and was full "bodyguard duty" and discover "love and friendship" with "Moogles".

Heh, heh, right? 30-50: "The truly strong stand alone. The weak masses cry for succor, and whether or not we choose to assist them depends on how much we can tolerate their desperate clinging. We'll stay on the side of the angels for now, but there's no guarantees for tomorrow. Now lets go kill something to shut these idiots up."



50-60: "This Loli has taught me the power of friendship and love. Let's go play with some moogles! Awwwwww."

[MagiusNecros]

^Nailed it. Hence why I see DRK as a novelty Tank class. A damn shame.