Compromise: Just Charge $5 For Now. Once 2.0 is Out, Then Charge $12

[OMEGA_HACK]

That was how it was originally. I can't remember the deal but basically if you paid for a full year you got 1 month free from getting the discount.

[Starlord]

THIS THIS THIS. I'll pay for a bulk sub if I get a discounted rate for it!

Edit: You know what I find funny about this thread? There are the same 4 or 5 people defending the $12 sub fee, but I've noticed a steady stream of DIFFERENT people chiming in saying that a $5-$7 sub fee would keep them, but nobody is taking them into account. It's just the same damn people defending SE's decision yelling louder than the new posters in this thread. Guess that's the Internet for ya. Keep trying to convince them Rentahamster. I'll be silently cheering for ya.

I'm NOT against a discount, in fact if that's the chosen route they chose, then awesome less money I have to pay for the game.

However, If the 12.95 stays as is, I feel as a player that its worth my investment, Especially since I'll be living a tale, that will only be told once. That alone is worth my 12.95 ( or your so called discounted price) I'm not defending it, I'm merely stating I will pay 12.95 if it stays the way it is.

Just because you want a discounted price because you been playing the game for free for a year, doesn't mean SE has to cave in after giving us 1.3 years of free game time.

[Dragon]

A better compromise IMO would be to make a super ultra discounted bulk deal. Like, buy a year's subscription for $6/mo, 6 month sub for $9/mo, or pay $12/mo recurring

This, exactly, would be the best.

I would also like to add, now that I've been thinking about it, maybe on top of this, go into a direction that's similar to certain other MMORPGs are doing until 2.0 comes out (and for this, content being defined as quests/campaigns/dungeons/raids): 1. You can play for free, but you won't be allowed access to any content in FFXIV beyond level 20 nor post-1.19; 2. You can pay a discounted fee each month, but only have access to pre-1.19 content; 3. You can pay full price (that being the bulk-amounts listed in the quote) and get full access to everything that comes out until 2.0.

[AamesxDavid]

Edit: You know what I find funny about this thread? There are the same 4 or 5 people defending the $12 sub fee, but I've noticed a steady stream of DIFFERENT people chiming in saying that a $5-$7 sub fee would keep them, but nobody is taking them into account.

You know what's sad about this thread? There are the same 4 or 5 people trying to talk sense to a steady stream of people whining about how much the game costs and coming up with nonsense excuses for it (the game is half-done, they're going to be changing everything, etc.)

If you enjoy the game enough to pay the subscription fee, then pay it. If you don't, then don't. Nothing should affect your choice for paying a subscription fee other than your enjoyment of the game - if it doesn't live up to your standards for the subscription fee, then you'll just have to wait until it does.

If you care enough that you're willing to incessantly complain on the forums, you should care enough to pay.

[Starlord]

You know what's sad about this thread? There are the same 4 or 5 people trying to talk sense to a steady stream of people whining about how much the game costs and coming up with nonsense excuses for it (the game is half-done, they're going to be changing everything, etc.)

If you enjoy the game enough to pay the subscription fee, then pay it. If you don't, then don't. Nothing should affect your choice for paying a subscription fee other than your enjoyment of the game - if it doesn't live up to your standards for the subscription fee, then you'll just have to wait until it does.

If you care enough that you're willing to incessantly complain on the forums, you should care enough to pay.

Agreed, nothing else more said!

[AmyRae]

You know what's sad about this thread? There are the same 4 or 5 people trying to talk sense to a steady stream of people whining about how much the game costs and coming up with nonsense excuses for it (the game is half-done, they're going to be changing everything, etc.)

If you enjoy the game enough to pay the subscription fee, then pay it. If you don't, then don't. Nothing should affect your choice for paying a subscription fee other than your enjoyment of the game - if it doesn't live up to your standards for the subscription fee, then you'll just have to wait until it does.

If you care enough that you're willing to incessantly complain on the forums, you should care enough to pay.

It's true if you don't like the current state of the game, you can wait it out, and I'm perfectly prepared to do that.

But having a lucid reason for not liking the game it's not "nonsense" as you put it. It demonstrates there are valid concerns beyond the mere dollars and cents of it.

We're not even expected to pay for a half-finished 2.0. We're expected to pay for the 1.0 version that's so awful that it has to be completely replaced by this brand new version coming out next year, but which we won't really get to experience fully until PS3 players do as well. Somehow full price doesn't seem quite right to me under these circumstances, and even though some people are okay with that, there may be a whole lot more who could live with a lower rate, enough to make SE even more money.

And if money is the goal (and more players are a bonus), then why shouldn't this thought be pursued to its logical conclusion?

[AamesxDavid]

But having a lucid reason for not liking the game it's not "nonsense" as you put it.

You can have all the lucid reasons you'd like for not liking the game - if those reasons are so great that they prevent you from wanting to pay the asking price, you must not be enjoying the game all that much. If you're not enjoying the game all that much, don't get all up in arms about not being able to play.

We're expected to pay for the 1.0 version that's so awful that

...that you shouldn't be playing it.

Goodbye.

Don't use the excuse that just because something is being completely revamped to make it even better that what we have now is garbage - that's the exact nonsense I'm talking about - it's in my post you you quoted. If you really think the game is "so awful", then leave.

[Agoven]

My 2 cents...

Charge what you originally intended SE $10 + $1 per character. The game is good. There are those that were willing to pay for the game and enjoyed the game since it's release. It's a game not for everyone. Nobody is entitled to be specially treated...I'm super sick of this I'm entitled to crap.

It's a privilege to play something someone else created. I have the option to play or not as it is entirely my choice. For a group of people that complained about the game not being worth it and that it's crap etc etc...THEY sure enjoyed the year of playing the game around the clock. There is no need to cave to those types of people. They'll never be happy.

You've done your dues SE and you've continued to work to make the game better. I've seen worse games charge more and done worse by their customers. Continue your work...charge what you believe is fair. Those who see that this game is getting amazing and even more so will be part of it for the long haul.

[Wynn]

That was how it was originally. I can't remember the deal but basically if you paid for a full year you got 1 month free from getting the discount.

I'm sure this option will still be available on the SE management site. Most MMO companies do that. Pay up front for a year, get a discount.

[lvicious]

I'm one of those who has said if you like it great then pay and if you don't then gtfo. I'm going to pay whatever they charge.. however... I am starting to see that there are a lot of current players who aren't just trolling or being haters but just honestly want to pay a little less until 2.0 comes out.

I've been a huge supporter of pay to play when it starts but I have to say that even though I love the game now and will love it even more over the next few years up to 2.0 .. I'd be all for a discount, bulk discount that's been discussed. Something cheaper than what they are planning for. Ya know even they said they considered cheaper fees so it's not something that's just about people whining. It's a legitimate concern.

I would rather see people stay and keep a strong player base than watch a mass exodus. The more the merrier. Honestly, I don't see players streaming back after not playing until late 2013. So it's better to keep people around now.

Now those who are just trolling and don't plan on paying period no matter what the cost can just gtfo. Let's compromise. There is nothing wrong with that. I mean the year+ of free play was not our fault and there are major changes coming down the road so compromise and let's all move forward and enjoy the game together.

I'm just saying I understand the argument and it's really hard to just dismiss it.