Ifrit Battle Loot (Hard)

[EcchiMan]

Dear Yoshidasan,

There is something broken about the loot system on the Ifrit Battle (Hard). I am 0/10 on weapon drops, when my ls mate is 3/10... including 1 axe that he dropped because of the rare/ex status. Can you explain to me how this system is fair or even logical?

If this system continues to wager on in the new primal battles, I'm afraid that I will have to unsubscribe till this system is revamped. All that hard work to beat Ifrit seems wasted if there is no reward at the end.

Thanks for your time.

Update 2/60 on weapon drops, Ifrit's Harpoon, still sucky loot system :S

[Akira]

did you have the lamp in your inventory?

[EcchiMan]

Yes... I did have the lamp every time. My LW almost gained a lvl because of the xp rewards. I have used up 50 key items so far... though those are easy enough to farm in spirit bind parties.

[Actus]

Week old news. Refer here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...needs-tweaking

[OriginalHungerforce]

Week old news. Refer here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...needs-tweaking

Even older news.... refer here: http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2011/10...-is-out-there/

apparently everything is working as intended...

[Akumu]

Gamer Escape: Speaking about the Ifrit battle… I haven’t beaten it yet, but I’ve heard that when players beat it, the items are dropped into their inventory instead of the loot pool where they could then be transferred to somebody. I’d hate to spend this time beating it to get a Conjurer weapon for my Lancer and then I’d feel bad if there was a Conjurer in my group that wanted it and I couldn’t give it to them. Is there a reason it was made that way? Or is this a bug?

Yoshida: Currently that is pretty much what we had in mind, so it’s not a bug. Because the hard mode can be played by everyone, it depends if you have the lamp or not. If you have the Inferno Lamp when you go in, it means you have a chance to get a drop. And If you don’t, it means you’re just helping and you won’t get that drop. So it looks at each player and checks for the lamp and if they have the lamp then it will randomly choose the drop and it’ll give it to each player, so it’s chosen by each player rather than the whole group. There was a lot of talk within the development team whether to look at the class and say OK if it’s this class then they only get this item or it doesn’t look at the class and gives the random item. They went with not basing it on the class because they felt that with the armory system and the way it’s set up now, players probably play a lot of different classes and might not be participating in the Ifrit battle on whatever they consider to be their main job. For example, you might really be a Lancer but because of what the party needs, you went as Gladiator. We didn’t want to penalize that player by not giving them a chance at what they really want. But that doesn’t mean it’s a perfect system. We know that players have started complaining about it. We are moving towards having a system that is closer to the need/greed system like WoW uses. Where players can… if they’re that class they can “need” it, or “greed” it if they want to use it for another class and the “needs” will get precedence over it. We’re finding out how we want to adjust that system and fit it towards FFXIV. Before we do that, we want the opinions of the community on what they feel would be the best type of loot system.

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So yes it will be fixed.

[Heat]

stupid system, and i wont do it until they fix it. i don't want 100 weapons in my inventory that i don't use and i rather someone else take it, but not the NPC

[EcchiMan]

Update: 0/45 on weapon drops
45/45 on DM :S

[Ruri]

I'm 2/16 only drops were the con cane. Which means 1 got trashed because you can only hold one. Id gladly trade the 2nd for a melee weapon if I could....

[darkstarpoet1]

"We know that players have started complaining about it. We are moving towards having a system that is closer to the need/greed system like WoW uses. Where players can… if they’re that class they can “need” it, or “greed” it if they want to use it for another class and the “needs” will get precedence over it. We’re finding out how we want to adjust that system and fit it towards FFXIV. Before we do that, we want the opinions of the community on what they feel would be the best type of loot system."

yoshi thinks we want a wow type need/greed system? why not do it the easy way and say to enter the fight you must have the lamp and then each person gets the item in their loot box and has the option to toss or keep their item?

having people in our party have to drop an item that someone else in the party needs, but cannot give it to them is stupid.