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  1. #71
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    Mykll's Avatar
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    Mykll Valiant
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    Though first bosses I have been scolded for using it. And always thought it was a general no-no to use on second boss because you won't have a full bar by the last boss (moreso if your party wide DPS is so high it burns down super fast, like on few occasions.)
    I find it funny that DPS is so fast at times the LB barely builds up much, so people get scolded. Well, if the DPS is so good, did you really need that LB?


    Quote Originally Posted by LordNickage View Post
    On tank if the boss hits 5% (on a 4 man dungeon) and nobody will lb, I will for fun.
    Heck I do it at that or a tad less on 8 mans too.

    Because...

    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    "Too late buddy, way too late".
    And the new Tank LB3s look awesome.
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  2. #72
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    Echoloc's Avatar
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    Echoloc Dekaimera
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Shang View Post
    To chime in on this, I usually tend to forget the lb bar has filled up (doesn't help I play on controller and my primary hotbar has absolutely no space for the LB skill :/), since most of the content I'm doing doesn't really require popping a lb early (well, aside from lvl60 stuff, but I usually have a BLM in the party so AoE is good enough).

    That said, I feel like some lb's are really underused. I think that the amount of times I've used the lvl3 Bard lb is like 4 times, in my nearly 6 months of playing. It looks really cool, but people prefer loldragoon lvl3's...
    Because loldragoon/melee does a lot more damage to a single target than any aoe LB

    From my experience bard level 3 did as much damage as a DRG level 2.
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  3. #73
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    Shan Aurelius
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Echoloc View Post
    Because loldragoon/melee does a lot more damage to a single target than any aoe LB

    From my experience bard level 3 did as much damage as a DRG level 2.

    Oh, I know that. Still, it feels like anything other than a single target lb (aside from a few cases) are just novelties.

    I mean, when did you *really* need a tank lb or an AoE lb on bosses?*

    *I'm saying this because I've only been playing for 6 months and have never, ever seen this happen (aside for a few rare cases where the dps weren't melee).
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  4. #74
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    PirateCat's Avatar
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    Leopold Sidney
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    Coeurl
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Shang View Post
    I mean, when did you *really* need a tank lb or an AoE lb on bosses?*
    Tank LB on Ultima HM's last Aetheric Boom was pretty standard practice. I've also used it in a few situations where a boss's ultimate attack does a ton of damage if the mechanics are messed up without it being enough to make it an auto-wipe (Garuda EX if someone kills the spiny plume early and Cloud of Darkness if she builds up too many stacks in the inhale phase.) But yeah, overall pretty limited.

    I'll always jump at the chance to pop the LB after the last boss fight is over when I'm tanking.
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  5. #75
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    Knahli's Avatar
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    K'nahli Yohko
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I am still very new to the game, but when I read up on limit breaks, my impression of them was to use them when it is called for by the tank (or other party leader) since it is not an individual action. Obviously, at the time I had no idea how dungeon runs go in this game, how LB mechanics work, or the rate of use which is considered the norm.

    Now that I am a little more acquainted, saving it to overkill the boss' last sliver of health is definitely a waste. However, I am still not sure LB's were designed to make dungeon runs go faster, OIOW increase dps. In either case I can sure in hell tell you that dps is going to go WAY down if you are arguing amongst your comrades about how to use the LB. I would probably kick myself from a party with members gouging each other's eyes out about it.
    Perhaps not, but would you rather have 2-3 LBs per run or just the 1? I've been using melee LB on bosses and trash alike for as long as I've had my DRG . Same deal with Bard on trash, assuming the Tank pulled more than just three enemies. In all that time, I've dealt with maybe two comments in total, albeit passive ones.

    One was something along the lines of "????" when I used it on the Treant in Amdapor Keep(HM) due to the fact that LB would not build back up in time if I waited until the second boss. I calmly explained that to them so they might know better for the future. They never contested it.

    Another time was during a larger trash pull in The Vault. I think the Tank said something like "lol was a lb just used on trash?". Albeit that was it. He didn't comment on the matter that LB easily refilled before the final boss once more.


    Personally, I'm not really that fussed about DPS. I'm happy to stop for a few seconds to answer things in a linkshell or anything during a fight so it's not like I care if the benefits of the damage increase are nullified by me stopping to explain myself once a year to people who think it can only be used once per run. It just annoys me a little to see it go unused. It'd be like deliberately ignoring one of your GCDs for an entire run just because. I'd never comment on it of course, but the seldom time that it is used(when I am a Tank and can't do so myself), I appreciate it.
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  6. #76
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    Ritza Solair
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 79
    Personally I don't when or were its used in a dungeon, only times I've seen it a nessesity to hold it would be if the boss have a "point of no Rageturn". thou there have been the few times were no one used it t all & we lost the healer mid-end battle of last boss & it was used to give us a clear rather than a horrid war of attrition trying to live long enouf (few times but memorable great LB uses) causality is many things but it never is u'r friend
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    Last edited by The_NPC; 03-26-2016 at 04:45 AM.

  7. #77
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    Zari's Avatar
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    Zari Lutus
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    In my case it generally happens because I'm a healer main so I dont always remember it when I am a dps
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  8. #78
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    Frost_Tear's Avatar
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    Verglas Lapine
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    I love it when melees try to wait until the boss is at 5%. I usually outspeed them and cast mine. And all of the sudden they feel blessed by my so-powerful-healer LB2.

    "Too late buddy, way too late".
    Haha I love this xD
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  9. #79
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    BLMs and SMNs that limit break big trash pulls get all my commends.

    Melee that wait till 5% find that I fatfinger my tank LB. :3
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  10. #80
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Ragnarok
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    BLMs and SMNs that limit break big trash pulls get all my commends.

    Melee that wait till 5% find that I fatfinger my tank LB. :3
    This is the true spirit ! You can never tell when a wipe is gonna stab you in the back !
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