Something I noticed in the Fractal Continuum...

[MusicGamer]

Granted, people have probably already noticed this and I'm just spouting off old news, but... I was running the Fractal Continuum a while ago with some of my FC mates as part of our Level 60 Roulette. We ran into the Iksalion, and something I noticed that I hadn't before: The Iksalion had almost the exact same model as the Ixal, with the exception of these mobs had wings.

Were the Allagans doing experiments on the beast tribes at one point? Or at least their ancestors?

[Kaiser-Ace]

Confirmed info, Iksalion were Allagan Creations that were genetically manufactured servants. The Instability of their DNA and intolerance to high aether levels later lead to an evolution into what we now know as The Ixali. A flightless descendant of the Iksalion.

[Chewy2nd]

The Iksalon are the Ixal, and Azys Lla is Ayatlan it seems, it seems like the Ixal were a race created by the Allagans.

[MusicGamer]

Alright, that pretty much confirms my suspicions. The other thing I'm wondering is, did the Allagans work on the other beast tribes as well? Like, say, the Vanu Vanu, or maybe even the Amalj'aa?

I dunno, I'm likely overthinking all of this because we never really got a good idea of where these two in particular came from, other than "They were always there". At least with the Sahagin/Kobolds we're told that they came from the sea/underground, respectively, at least as far as I recall.

[Chewy2nd]

I recall from somewhere that Ultima Weapon or Proto Ultima were made from merging Amal'jaa and Sahagin, not sure if that is correct though.

[Kaiser-Ace]

I recall from somewhere that Ultima Weapon or Proto Ultima were made from merging Amal'jaa and Sahagin, not sure if that is correct though.

Alright, that pretty much confirms my suspicions. The other thing I'm wondering is, did the Allagans work on the other beast tribes as well? Like, say, the Vanu Vanu, or maybe even the Amalj'aa?

I dunno, I'm likely overthinking all of this because we never really got a good idea of where these two in particular came from, other than "They were always there". At least with the Sahagin/Kobolds we're told that they came from the sea/underground, respectively, at least as far as I recall.

Speculation not confirmed on both counts.

Though I personally Loath to give allag that much credit on the basis there were civilizations before and after them with their own unique quirks (Like how Mach and Amdapor took magic further than the alagan could have ever dreamed) So saying ALL the beast tribes were made by them is, imo, giving them WAY to much credit. I susspect the Beast Tribes were in Eorzea LONG before the first of the spoken races ever showed up. (Who knows, maybe they were Zodiark's Children before Hydaleyn allegedly took over ala Promethia vs Altana.)

[Frederick22]

Sorry for telling you this MusicGamer, but there were already threads about this long ago.

But I can tell you something, I think, wasnt being talk about that much.

What are the origins of Garuda ? Did she really existed ?

Well... I think all this questions can be answer if you take a look to the tale of Moises.

I really have suspicions that Gaurda was an allagan. why?

- I really doubt the Ixalion could have so easely scape from the allagans's hands withouth an inside help.
- After 5 thousands years, the Ixaly pictured Gaurda as a half human - half Ixali creature? Given the facts that primals are created from mortal's minds, Garuda could have look like anything.

I was getting him up to speed since those topics are a few months old now. I believe us, Moose-Sensei, Enkidu-Senpai, and Fenral were part of most of those discussions weren't we Fred?

Yes

[Kaiser-Ace]

Sorry for telling you this MusicGamer, but there were already threads about this long ago.

I was getting him up to speed since those topics are a few months old now. I believe us, Moose-Sensei, Enkidu-Senpai, and Fenral were part of most of those discussions weren't we Fred?

[Belhi]

My theory is that Garuda was an Allagan too. I also suspect the 'Lord of Serpents' or whatever it was from the Garuda mythos was a Chimeric construct.

As for the other beast tribes, I think some of them are the result of Allagan manipulation but not all. I think one of the FATEs in Azys Lla actually indicates that the chimeric creatures you are fighting seem to be a merge involving a lizard like beast tribe who lives in southern Othard, plus we know that Sephirot was worshipped by a plant like beast tribe. Considering they had the key, I think the Vanu Vanu are definitely candidates for Allagan created.

To be honest, Miqote are high on my suspect list for possible Allagan created races too. Its very likely that Allagans created Chimeric species for domestic purposes as well as war ones and creating a servant race would fit. It would also explain a lot of the cat like behaviour that Miqote culture seems to share.

[Frederick22]

"Who made God? : allagans" xD

I really dont think that. I have some suspicions on the Vanu Vanu, but there is no strong evidence to suport this, only a tinny little key and that still not very conclusive.

I suspect the Raptoids on Azys la were created by testing different times of beast tribe creatues ( Was not that already confirmed? )

That the miqote were allagan made I think is ridiculus, sorry. Until we get solid info non of the spoken races were allagan made. Just because Miqotes lived on Meracydia that doesnt make then allagan creations