What Red Mage may be in 4.0

**Alahra** · 02-04-2016 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by Ageofwar

I fear the moment when Yoshi p announces Red mage as a healer/support role or something that's not jack of all trades and overpowered there is going to be SO much bitching in the forums

I'm calling tank for it, personally. Melee, check. Black magic for AoE aggro, check. White magic for defensive cooldowns/healing, check. It's the simplest way to cover the three things RDMs usually do in Final Fantasy games. A support DPS could work too, though (the game's first melee one, most likely), especially if they expand Bard Songs/Turrets to incorporate things like health regen.

**m3eansean** · 02-04-2016 05:11 AM

It will be a melee dps. It will be another canned version of the trinity with the exact same amount of skills as any other melee dps and the primary role will be to hit things as hard as you can.

They will add some flair to moves to make it kind of feel "red-magey" but at the end of the day it is another dragoon with a different name. They will have some kind of "support" skill like mantra or battle litany, but that's about it. Due to balancing they will just be another dps'er with some little flair to make the nostalgic folks feel good.

**Ageofwar** · 02-04-2016 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by Alahra

I'm calling tank for it

somehow i don't see RDM as a tank its just so untanky and it goes against the meta of RDM

Originally Posted by m3eansean

It will be a melee dps. It will be another canned version of the trinity

What i'm really hopping for this but they will have to cut out a lot of the "Jack of all trades" out of the job to make it fit into the trinity which i believe will piss off the community so much there will be mass unsubing unless its "fixed"

**Brannigan** · 02-04-2016 05:29 AM

Tank makes the most sense for Red Mage. Keep them in caster armor and give them a trait that lets them match pdef/mdef with the other tanks.

But god damn that Ramza lookin' young. I guess it makes sense since he's supposed to be like 16 in chapter 1. I hope they have chapter 2 and 4 alts for him. Also that version of antipyretic is awesome.

**CosmicKirby** · 02-04-2016 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Zeonx

Other than that why does Ramza Beoulve look like a flat chested girl?

That's how Ramza rolls, man.

**Alahra** · 02-04-2016 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by Ageofwar

somehow i don't see RDM as a tank its just so untanky and it goes against the meta of RDM

There were a lot of people who didn't see DRK as a tank either, though. I think they could pull it off. They'd probably have some sort trait that gave caster-like armor higher Defense values or something for them, so they still looked like a mage, generally. Granted, RDM being a tank would potentially cause some goofy things with gearing, especially in static groups. Of course, they've also been moving just about all tank gear to a very "mage-like" look—nearly everything is some sort of armored robe these days, it feels like. That could, I suppose, be a sign of things to come.

We won't see them break the trinity for them though, that's for all but certain, and healer is pretty much all but out because of all the "don't stand next to the healer" mechanics, unless they take away Melee aspects entirely, which I think is unlikely. So that pretty much only leaves tank or Support DPS, in my mind.

I don't think we would see a massive loss of subscriptions whatever they do, though—Red Mage is hardly as popular as other FF staples like Dragoon, Dark Knight, and Samurai.

**TheGrimace** · 02-04-2016 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Brannigan

Tank makes the most sense for Red Mage. Keep them in caster armor and give them a trait that lets them match pdef/mdef with the other tanks.

But god damn that Ramza lookin' young. I guess it makes sense since he's supposed to be like 16 in chapter 1. I hope they have chapter 2 and 4 alts for him. Also that version of antipyretic is awesome.

Yeah, they always tend to use Chapter 1 Ramza for promotional uses, like in Theatrythym too. In my experience, America overall seems to prefer Chapters 2-4 Ramza. By that point, he's hardened by the sins of battle and has begun to understand just how cruel the world can be, culminating in his hopeful blue attire in Chapter 4.

I imagine they'll add in atleast one of these costumes as alternate attire, not unlike how they added Vaan's FFTA2 shirt for Duodecim. I'm looking forward to the eventual PS4 release of the game. Shame that will take some time... Most here won't be able to experience the Arcade version.

**Spawnie** · 02-04-2016 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

I'm not buying the next expansion if there is no beastmaster

ill still buy it since i love playin ff14 but agreed better be a beastmaster class in it

**HorseBoots** · 02-04-2016 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by Zeonx

Other than that why does Ramza Beoulve look like a flat chested girl?

I mean, to be fair this is the first real time Ramza has been rendered outside of Akihiki Yoshida's art style. Did anyone really know what Ramza looked like outside of his stylized look?

**Warlyx** · 02-04-2016 06:44 AM

whatever its , only 1/4 will be happy

rdm could be

tank
healer
melee
caster

as i said only a few will be happy with RDM ....other than being the 1 true hybrid job that has 4 stances..... and can be everything....

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