Endgame DRG Armor

[Nalien]

All the minions, mounts, and costumes in the cash shop should frankly be obtainable in game, behind something absurd like a MGP grind. I can accept the cash shop as a "short cut" to getting these kinds of things, but when you see them tease Sleipnir as a player mount back in beta, only for them to turn around months later and sell it on for an absurd price... If that isn't crossing the line, it is very violently humping it... Something like Sleipnir should have dropped from the Odin Trial, and I'd have absolutely no problem with primal ponies being in the cash shop; Let people who want to play the game they are paying for, play it. Let people who just want to throw money at the game throw money at the game and never bother with stuff like Gold Saucer or Primals.

[Rufalus]

...your probably mental condition of impulsive consumism.
Stop it. You are bad. Microtransactions are bad. Cash Shops are bad.

Where do you draw the line then in telling people what are proper and improper uses of money. Somebody could say shops that sell blue shirts are bad and you are bad for buying them. It wouldn't really be a more or less valid argument. If somebody loves what S-E are doing and think the cosmetic items they design are worth money, they buy. Money in general isn't a fair system but S-E didn't invent that. They are just doing what all businesses do, trying make as much profit as they can, and it's voluntary if we support their service or not.

[Jynx]

Consumer apathy over micro transaction has been overwhelmed in the clash of clans generation of gamers.

It's become a industry norm. I remember when companies got lambasted over micro transactions like horse armor.

Now... now people clamor for it. The world has gone mad.

[Colorful]

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Tell me about it, but this forum isn't even close to being the worst in that regard. Take 5 minutes to read the Black Desert forums, people are literally defending potentional pay to win practices and costumes with beneficial stats. Defending the fact that the $100 pack doesn't give you all exclusive costumes (you get to pick one, even though they're identical). Why? To sell you other costumes for that 10% EXP bonus. People treat companies like they're besties when in reality they have one goal in mind, and that's to get to your wallet. Yoshida may have the best intentions in the world for his fans, but the investors don't. Why needlessly defend these practices? Yeah, I used to do it but I've changed for the better I'd like to think.

[Nominous]

Tell me about it, but this forum isn't even close to being the worst in that regard. Take 5 minutes to read the Black Desert forums, people are literally defending potentional pay to win practices and costumes with beneficial stats. Defending the fact that the $100 pack doesn't give you all exclusive costumes (you get to pick one, even though they're identical). Why? To sell you other costumes for that 10% EXP bonus. People treat companies like they're besties when in reality they have one goal in mind, and that's to get to your wallet. Yoshida may have the best intentions in the world for his fans, but the investors don't. Why needlessly defend these practices? Yeah, I used to do it but I've changed for the better I'd like to think.

It doesn't make you any better or worse to have an opinion on either side of this. There's just a popular opinion and an unpopular one. You're just saying that you'd like to think that now you're on the side of the popular opinion- that of the vocal minority.

And for what it's worth, really... neither side is fully justified. Folks who hate these practices would like to think it's the 'right' side of history. What I perceive it as, is a person who doesn't understand that everything costs money and time. And for others, I just think they have a chip on their shoulder and wouldn't be pleased with anything a company does. I find that a lot of these people tend to think companies are inherently evil and want nothing but to hurt you, and aren't willing to hear any reason.

People on the other side tend to be a bit less caustic, which is refreshing, however they can be a bit overzealous. Some of these folks will literally throw away a life savings to buy any and everything they offer because, frankly, it doesn't break their bank.

Neither side is right or wrong, but I think it pays off to be more understanding in the end. I totally get why you wouldn't want to buy these things, but why be angry with a person who does? They aren't solely (or collectively) to blame for SE getting out of control, if it happens.

[Colorful]

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You're definitely right that no side is entirely correct, but I've seen many games with a lot of innovation fail due to greed, namely ArcheAge. Hurts to say that name at this point, they pulled a complete bait and switch from the Alpha, ran away with everyone's money and now Trion's reputation has dropped like a rock. Once known as a publisher that makes fair games that has seen moderate success, now known as a money grubbing company set to to make a quick buck whenever possible. How can anyone defend that? There's no longer a real community to play with in ArcheAge, world first raiders are leaving in droves at this point and yet people claim that Trion is doing nothing wrong. This isn't a one case kind of deal, it's done by the majority of publishers that aren't closely tied to the game, even China's FFXIV is a little sketchy.

FFXIV is relatively light on the monetization, the majority of items are items that took little effort to implement (which is a good thing, as it doesn't detract from development time) and if subscription numbers drop in a content lull I can see why they would release something like Minfilia's set to make up for that loss in profits. I just can't take the side of people claiming that implementing completely new sets into the cash shop, those should be earned from events, the Gold Saucer, or be veteran rewards. Nor can I take the defense of people defending pay to win, you can argue that no side is right or wrong, but when a game loses 90% of its population there's a clear answer as to whether that decision was good or bad for the game. I feel as if I'm deviating a little from FFXIV's cash shop, but w/e. I don't think we'll go pay to win, but I do not want to see completely original cosmetics in the cash shop. I might as well pack my bags and take leave to a buy to play MMO at that point, no?

[Felis]

Just make them specialist recipes

Nothing in this game is free, all should be granted to me by just buying it and keeping my subscription up.
Microtransactions are the cancer of the gaming industry from gamers perspective, saying that you love it is simply a justification to your probably mental condition of impulsive consumism.

Communism? Starting to think, like fascism, most people don't know what it means. They make the item, they chose its price, and chose how they sell it. Your choice is to buy it or not buy it. That my friend is Capitalism in a nutshell. If it made no money it wouldn't be done. If it makes a lot of money it gets more/continued support. The Mog Station falls into the later.

Consumism =/= Communism

Consumism is more like to buy something just to have it

[Kaiser-Ace]

Just make them specialist recipes



Consumism =/= Communism

Consumism is more like to buy something just to have it

I swear that said Communism when I read it. I apologize then. Haven't slept in almost 20 hours.

[TouchandFeel]

So on the topic of the OP, you should be able to put together a glamour pretty close to that with stuff in the game.
Upgraded ESO DRG helm (so you can dye it to match) and maybe the Wild Rose set or Odin set. Not exact but it may suffice.

[TheUltimateSeph]

So on the topic of the OP, you should be able to put together a glamour pretty close to that with stuff in the game.
Upgraded ESO DRG helm (so you can dye it to match) and maybe the Wild Rose set or Odin set. Not exact but it may suffice.

I'll try that for now. The one thing I hate about the eso helm though is how you can't take off the bottom part that covers the mouth without also moving the part at the top so it doesn't cover the eyes anymore.