Thread: Hildibrand Season 2 Official Release in 3.2!

Originally Posted by KaitlanKela

If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to play it.

Oh I'm not saying I don't like it, I actually quite enjoy the quests. I'm just fairly put off by how much effort goes into them at this point, when other side quest content is fairly bare bones. Hildibrand isn't the only light hearted quest series we get, I'd have gladly seen 3.# follow the Doman Adventurer's Guild through some more antics, perhaps with a finale post-credits "He's back!" cut to Hildibrand ready for 4.0, but it doesn't look like we'll be revisiting them any time soon... That would have got me excited for more Hildibrand, instead I'm just kinda worried he is going to become a standard thing. I like cake, but I wouldn't want it every day. When things become standard, they quickly loose their appeal IMO, I mean we get dungeons every patch but the dungeons themselves have long since lost any lasting appeal IMO, the early ones had potential that was never met and promptly abandoned as they had to churn them out each patch. I'd rather not have a similar thing happen to Hildibrand.

Originally Posted by KaitlanKela

Last Hildiquest was 2.5, Before the Fall Part I, released in January of 2015; over a year ago.

Just to be clear

Still two patches. All you've done is remind me how Heavensward has been plagued with delays... Both its initial launch and 3.1, we've not gotten much of anything over the past year outside Heavenswards main scenario...

Christ, when 3.1 had about 5 minutes of main scenario (an exaggeration, but we all know 3.1s main scenario quests were far shorter than previous ones), what can I possibly expect from side content like Hildibrand? Do I want 5 minutes worth of Hildibrand in 3.2, or would I rather wait and get the same standard of quests (or better) as 2.#? Hopefully whatever issues 3.1 had are behind them at this point though. Hildibrand is coming back and no amount of concern on my half is going to change that, I just hope it was worth bringing him out of glorious flying sword mount retirement.

Originally Posted by Nalien

Still two patches. All you've done is remind me how Heavensward has been plagued with delays... Both its initial launch and 3.1, we've not gotten much of anything over the past year outside Heavenswards main scenario...

Firstly, expac =/= "patch", it's patch + a lot of other stuff that needed development time, like races and jobs and areas and things that don't normally come in a patch.

Secondly, there were a ton of new things added during that year. Whether or not they are good or if they came out timely is a different issue, but they used development time too. Time that wasn't Hildi.

I think 3.0 + 3.1 was a perfectly long break from hildibrand, considering his popularity. Honestly, shouldn't popularity determine what content gets added anyway? If not that, how would you decide? It's impossible to please everyone all of the time, and there are a LOT of people playing this game. What gets the most interest from the playerbase should get the most attention from the devs.

As far as having him every patch from here on, if it was me I'd do every other patch. I agree that every patch it may lose some of it's novelty and it gives dev hours to some other things. We don't really know what they'll do with it. If they do it every patch like they did before, /shrug. That's their prerogative.

Originally Posted by Nalien

I just hope it was worth bringing him out of glorious flying sword mount retirement.

I agree with you that I would rather them do it not at all if they can't do it properly. However, I have hope that, even with limited resources, this will get done properly because of how popular is was in the past and the amount of attention it will get once it's released. 2.x Hildi set the bar pretty high and I would think Yoshi recognizes that.

Originally Posted by KaitlanKela

As far as having him every patch from here on, if it was me I'd do every other patch. I agree that every patch it may lose some of it's novelty and it gives dev hours to some other things. We don't really know what they'll do with it. If they do it every patch like they did before, /shrug. That's their prerogative.

My expectation is that we'll get some gags related to the new climate he finds himself in, perhaps a run in with an inquisitor ("Filthy Rats!") and probably a Gentleman of Darkness to mirror the main scenario. That could work, and hopefully it does (or I'm completely wrong and they blow away my expectations), but that's my concern; predictability and nothing really new or fresh to bring to the table. I'll gladly be wrong on this, though.

Meanwhile, I found the Doman Adventurer's Guild quests to be refreshing enough that I want more, and we've got an entire expansion of new NPCs that could benefit from a Mail Mog style quest series. Just my opinion of course, but right now I'd rather see that, than more Hildibrand. I am happy we're getting more Hildibrand, don't get me wrong, I'm just hesitantly happy, while if they'd announced new Doman Adventurer's Guild quests, I'd have zero hesitation.

Originally Posted by KaitlanKela

Honestly, shouldn't popularity determine what content gets added anyway? If not that, how would you decide? It's impossible to please everyone all of the time, and there are a LOT of people playing this game. What gets the most interest from the playerbase should get the most attention from the devs.

That's exactly why I'm voicing these concerns. I don't think it is as simple ask going "Just make whats popular", because that appeals to a niche. Hildibrand fans got Hildibrand, meanwhile people who enjoy riddles got a fairly slapdash job with Winebaud's Riddles and a few oddities in Heavensward. With an MMO of this size I think it's important to cater to multiple tastes, and even when catering to a specific taste, it's important not to overdo it. It's been a year though, so perhaps it's been long enough, I just hope they've got more planned than just Hildibrand at this point. Quite cruel of them to leave the kids quest hanging with a Valefor tease, of all things...