Tutorials to teach players how to play effectively

[The_Greatest_Evil]

Let they play the way they want. You are not the big boss of them. I love BLM that use just ice and single rotation. And love WHM that use clearic stance. I also love ninjas that use the rabbit. And monk's that use just combos. Or made a world just for casuals without the elitism. They are paying for the game and they deserve to have fun.

[Vespar]

Let they play the way they want. You are not the big boss of them. I love BLM that use just ice and single rotation. And love WHM that use clearic stance. I also love ninjas that use the rabbit. And monk's that use just combos. Or made a world just for casuals without the elitism. They are paying for the game and they deserve to have fun.

I apologize if my OP came off as elitist to you. This thread wasnt meant to come off that way at all. I am by no means telling people how to play. I was asking the developers to help us create a method that instructs players on how to play, because a good chunk of newer players really don't know what their actions do or how to chain them. I was guilty of this too. Back when I first started as a BLM I used to just sit there and spam Fire 3 until I was out of mana, then cast Blizzard 3 to replenish it. It wasnt until someone in my relic Chimera-fight was nice enough to tell me about "Firestarter" and how to use it to get free Fire 3's. I had no idea. And I appreciated the insight. And I learned how to be an even more effective BLM from it because of the manner in which he started the conversation. He wasn't rude in the way he brought about the conversation either. He asked "Hey can I make a suggestion?" and things politely followed from there.

Nowadays all I see is something akin to "WTF BRO, WHY ARENT YOU USING "insert X action here"? This isnt a very good way to initiate a conversation much less help someone learn how to play better.

[WellFooled]

I apologize if my OP came off as elitist to you.

Don't engage trolls in conversation Vespar, it will only lead you down a dark path.

On topic though, I agree with Morbid. SE just announced a bunch of features to help new players learn the ropes, I think it's silly to ask for more until we see how those features turn out.

[Vespar]

Don't engage trolls in conversation Vespar, it will only lead you down a dark path.

On topic though, I agree with Morbid. SE just announced a bunch of features to help new players learn the ropes, I think it's silly to ask for more until we see how those features turn out.

I was unaware that something was in the works. Have they said how it will work or what exactly it will teach? Did they mention when it might be implemented (3.2?)

Ive been away for a while so Im out of the loop and I hadn't heard about it.

[WellFooled]

I was unaware that something was in the works. Have they said how it will work or what exactly it will teach? Did they mention when it might be implemented (3.2?)

In addition to the Mentor system and Stone, Sky, Sea there was talk of a Beginner Hall. Though its possible that was combined with Stone, Sea, Sky.

[The_Greatest_Evil]

The mentor system will help them. At last you was polite. But they have no fault too. The game doesn't teach correctly how to use your job. Many people come to lv 50 and can't do it well because no one never tell them. And of course that this person will not learn just on one dungeon. And them you come to 60 and everything that you learn changed. So people start from zero to 50-60. And the game should prepared at this lvs. So it's more a devs fault.
Newests lv50-60 just means one thing there ''You are not preapared !'' by Illidan. If they are not read this means that the lvs 1-49 50-59 don't server for nothing.

[Miste]

I was asking the developers to help us create a method that instructs players on how to play, because a good chunk of newer players really don't know what their actions do or how to chain them. I was guilty of this too. Back when I first started as a BLM I used to just sit there and spam Fire 3 until I was out of mana, then cast Blizzard 3 to replenish it. It wasnt until someone in my relic Chimera-fight was nice enough to tell me about "Firestarter" and how to use it to get free Fire 3's. I had no idea.

Not everyone learned their jobs by other people instructing them....personally I learned some jobs by actually examining the job's toolkit (like reading the spell/ability information) so that I fully understand how to make use of my spells and abilities.

Everyone can actually teach themselves how to play a job decently without other player's help if they actually spend the time to try and read and understand the job they are trying to play. The game already fully explains the spells, abilities, and traits we obtain in the tooltips just some people aren't reading them.

They are already adding more stuff in terms of novice help with the new novice hall though so like others said you might as well wait for that to see how it goes.

[Vespar]

Not everyone learned their jobs by other people instructing them....personally I learned some jobs by actually examining the job's toolkit (like reading the spell/ability information) so that I fully understand how to make use of my spells and abilities.

Everyone can actually teach themselves how to play a job decently without other player's help if they actually spend the time to try and read and understand the job they are trying to play. The game already fully explains the spells, abilities, and traits we obtain in the tooltips just some people aren't reading them.

They are already adding more stuff in terms of novice help with the new novice hall though so like others said you might as well wait for that to see how it goes.

This is true. In my case though, Firestarter is a trait and not an ability you can cast. Which is why I missed it. I didnt even know I had it, so I didnt know I should be using its effects. BAck then I just thought that one BLM spell was stronger than the next so I just replaced them as I went. Knowing what I know now, has taught me to read and check up on these things everytime I gain a new level. But once again, newer players may not be anticipating this and may just generally not know to check ^^;