Make Each Class Use Each Stat

[Cabalabob]

Here is an idea that everyone will hate! \o/ (except a few others like myself)

Let's make each primary stat actually have an effect on each of the jobs.

STR could improve CRT
DEX could improve accuracy and determination
MND could improve spell speed/skill speed
INT could improve TP refresh/MP refresh

Then

You could have a SCH who slots up STR accessories or the 30 points, for higher crit'd adlos if they so choose to sacrifice the MND

You could have a WHM slot in DEX to meet accuracy requirements

You could have BLM using MND for faster Fire IV's

You could have tanks slot in DEX for to meet the high frontal accuracy cap

You could have bards slot in STR for CRITs and bloodletter procs

You could have melee slot in INT so they wouldn't have to worry about TP woes on AoE heavy encounters

etc etc.

I think this change would couple well with the upcoming changes to Materia slots being added to more gear


EDIT: Alternatively, can we remove the 35 bonus attributes and have them automatic. 0 reason to pick anything other than your main stat currently.

This is how FFXI and 1.0 worked, each stat did its own thing that was mainly used by specific jobs but wasn't necessarily just for them.

STR increased physical damage (mages actually used to use their weapons)
VIT reduced damage taken and increased hp
DEX increased crit rate and accuracy
INT increased magic damage and reduced magic damage taken
MND increased healing magic and magic defence
PIE increased mp

Stats were also used as modifiers for weaponskills to increase damage, so if you used say red lotus (attack with fire damage) it had a STR and INT modifier.

Since all classes could cross class healing and offensive magic and mages could use physical damage, jobs wore gear with all sorts of stats on it based on what they were doing and could swap out gear pieces in battle. So you could wear your MND set to cast cure then swap to your STR set to weaponskill then to your VIT set to take a big hit etc. etc.

If you're looking for this kind of system I'd recommend trying ffxi, it is fun but it's not what they're going for in this game.

[Reynhart]

If you're looking for this kind of system I'd recommend trying ffxi, it is fun but it's not what they're going for in this game.

It's a good thing that this game is not like FFXI, but if they don't expand the effect of stats, why bother having them ?
And also, how will they make more jobs relevant if they all focus on the exact same thing ?

[LineageRazor]

It's a good thing that this game is not like FFXI, but if they don't expand the effect of stats, why bother having them ?

This. With the direction FFXIV is going there's really no reason to have stats at all. Every job has every so-called "main" stat, but only two or three affect that job at all, and generally only one does the player bother boosting. You could pretty much straight up remove STR VIT INT MND DEX PIE from the game and replace them all with "Damage", "HP", and "MP", and the game would be otherwise largely unchanged.

Really the only reason we have them at all is that it's expected for those stats (or similar ones) to exist in an RPG.

It'd be nice if players were expected to balance their stats. For example, you want to max out your damage, but if you negelct your defensive stats too much you're a glass cannon and no use to anyone, so sacrifice some of that damage to build up your defenseive stats. In FFXIV, though, players have one option and one option only: pump up your main stat as high as it will go.

[Reynhart]

In FFXIV, though, players have one option and one option only: pump up your main stat as high as it will go.

Let me take something from a game almost as despised as FFXI (in the official forum )...FFXIV 1.0. /thunder

Back when class ranks and physical level were separated, every point of stat you had was a result of bonus points. It meant that you really could go the glass cannon way by putting nothing into Vitality. You had to find the good balance between those stats.
Even more, you kept the same stats for any class you level, so if you wanted to be good, you had to make choices...but it was poorly implemented, sadly

Now that gear provides more than 90% of our stats, while still only being chosen on ilvl only (Most of the time), stats don't do anything.