Botting is getting worse.

[Galdous]

Sorry, I'm having hard time following what you said and why I was quoted. For one, I don't understand what housing has to do with my points, nor do I understand the relevance of your second paragraph. I am by no way a casual botter, yet I was able to afford to pay well over 40% of the cost of our FC house and buy a Large Plot when personal housing dropped the "legit"(this needs defining) way, and subsequently destroy it with no resentment when I saw other young FCs hurting for a house that I never used anyway, besides just wanting from the hype. So besides it defying the ToS, I do not see why a casual botter impacts the community if he is not reselling the gil for real currency.

Turning this into a personal argument is not really the best way to go. Most bots farm gil or mats to make items or to use on the market. Said market receives huge influx of items which cause artificial inflation and gil earning into the server which causes prices of low end items to go down but with such a huge influx of gil on the server it causes gil to inflate meaning it is not worth as much because of said amount of unnatural gil being pushed into the server. That causes luxury items or high end items to go up in price because of before mentioned meaning of inflation.

People who farm gil and mats have a huge advantage over those who do not. If you can somehow tell me how they do not or how that does not hurt you then be my guest. But said person who uses bots to earn gil illegally can use the gil to afford items they would not normally be able to aka housing which means that those who do not cheat are the ones affected. Both in the market, in housing and in the game in general.

[Iagainsti]

I do not believe I turned this into a personal argument, but if you feel I have, I apologize. I just clearly don't see the connection between your quote of mine and your post. Also, I did state the same points in my post above concerning the inflated price of items, though it's not the botters, its the player base who buys the gil that's cause the disregard attitude, "Sure, I'll pay 300% the actual value for X bc I didn't earn this gil properly and can always buy more".

[Laraul]

Gold buyers and bot users ruin this game! Just like people who watch pirated movies ruin Hollywood! How dare they get something they didn't rightfully obtain! And I'm sure no one here has EVER pirated a movie or a game? :P

Your getting all wound up over something that you can't possibly ever completely stop. Play the game and enjoy it. Take pride in that you're doing it the right way, That's makes you the better person/player.

[Callback]

Are you 100% sure it was botting and not just multiboxing with shared client input? I'm not 100% sure what SE's multibox policy is, but many companies do allow it.

[Vlady]

Multiboxing uses follow system in most games. Seeing synchronized dodging in the same direction is not using the following system. If you saw it there would be no doubt it's a bot. This is not like wow with boxing. There are not many boxers compared to bots.

[Caitlinzulu]

Multiboxing sounds like it would still be cheating and against tos. As I remember it all programs that interact/interfere with the game client are prohibited. And even if its just inputting keystrokes it still feels like cheating.
Why not play in a normal fashion? Why use shortcuts that only limits playing? As has been said above it hinders/ruins other players to enjoy the game to its fullest.

[LadyVal]

Multiboxing sounds like it would still be cheating and against tos. As I remember it all programs that interact/interfere with the game client are prohibited.

Pretty sure SE's general rule of thumb is "If consoles can't do it, it's not allowed." Not saying I agree or disagree with this, but that is how they approached making the game fair. That's why parsers aren't even allowed, because consoles can't run them.

[EggRollBandit]

I used to report bots all the time. I gave up though because over time I've noticed that my reports were seemingly ignored. For nearly 6 months the same gathering bots were roaming the fields of the Faerie server with /busy on and ignoring all tells & player interaction 24/7.

How hard would it be for a GM to pull these players to prison for just a minute and simply test whether or not they were bots? It honestly baffles me this kind of behavior has persisted for so long, right in the open too!

[Gunspec]

Actually Basic economics: More of an item in stock decreases the price.

Also basic economics, more money entering an economy leads to inflation and higher prices.



Jade sells for 12 gil, making it one of the most expensive items for a miner to farm. 25 Billion gil entered the economy via just this one botting exploit. And if you don't think this powerpoint slide is evidence of botting, consider that if this game had 10 million players it would require each player to farm an average of 215 Jade each for this statistic to make sense, and 645 maple logs as well. Raw gemstones should never exist in quantities higher than basic ore and metals.

[Derio]

Bots are getting worse by the day. Just the other day I saw several bots in central thanalan all hunting efts all thaurtmages casting the same spell and then jumping to a new loacation and then jumping back and repeat.