Black Mage 'Sleep' action in Dungeons

[NationalVelvet]

Hi all,

Im still fairly new to the game (just over a week). My black mage is nearing 50 and I had a question on putting adds to sleep in Dungeons.

Generally speaking for crowd control purposes I put adds to sleep but of course ignore trying it on bosses as my probability it never works on the big guys. I just had some player in a higher level dungeon send a message stating "stop wasting time casting sleep" of which I responded that it does work on adds and demonstrated it.

Well anyway, they waited right to the boss and then kicked me. I had performed well throughout the game (despite the crappy healer).

Is it uncool to use 'sleep' in Dungeons or not? Is there a best or worst time?

Thanks guys!

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Sleep beyond LV50 is worthless since either mobs are immune to it or people are going to want to you to AOE spam in big pulls. The group you were with kicked you because you tried to correct them and no one likes others confronting them.

[Seisha]

i used sleep just earlier during a Sohm Al run when the tank died. I slept one and bonded the others and sprinted around until the tank came back... it has it uses.

[Lukha]

Sleep might be useful in the case that you've got a full or most of a party of people new to the game, with gear below or about the level of the dungeon you're in. Most of the time these days you're going to be in a party of level-synced 60s capable of steamrolling the dungeon, and without the patience to do anything else, and in that case sleep won't help because everything dies so quick anyway.

They're assholes for kicking you instead of explaining that, though.

On the other hand, sleep is super useful in PvP.

[AskaRay]

Aside from something going terribly wrong, so like what Seisha described....don't bother using it.
I only ever use it if a tank or healer specifically ask me to, and usually that's in a super newbie dungeon, and then I don't mind so much.

EDIT I also use it all the time by myself, of course, because squishy mage and 4 enemies at once doesn't end well

[UBERHAXED]

Mobs in leveling dungeons are susceptible to sleep. Some in lvl 50 dungeons as well (the first few anyway). That said, all bosses are immune.

[Darkstride]

It's generally more efficient to focus on damage rather than crowd control, especially as a job with high AoE damage capability. I don't think it warrants kicking someone from a group, though.

[Lemuria]

Mobs in leveling dungeons are susceptible to sleep. Some in lvl 50 dungeons as well (the first few anyway). That said, all bosses are immune.

Sadly, virtually all dungeon mobs are immune to sleep post level 50. So don't get too comfortable using this spell in battle. It will outlive its usefulness sooner rather than you might think.

[alimdia]

Depends on which dungeon

[BraveheartRamo]

As Lukha mentioned in post, it would be useful in low lvl duns with first time or unsynced parties or when something goes wrong, but again it can be useless as other members would use AOE and wake it up. I'd suggest asking party if they prefer to have Sleep used, this way the party can be more organized especially when target marking are used.