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    Bluffnix's Avatar
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    Chicks Dig'me
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    Siren
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    Miner Lv 60

    DOT/HOT THE DAMN GROUND

    Tips for new and old players.

    DOT/HOT anything narrow like ramps and paths.

    Here's how it works, you only need to deter 1-2 people to create doubt. The inaction/reaction of those 1-2 people will create a chain of influenced behavior affecting the fluidity of movement.

    Congrats! You just learned Herd Behavior, Crowd Psychology and Collective behavior.

    Achievement notice!
    You now understand how to deter a push.
    Perma stat increase: Intelligence +10
    Perma stat increase: Resolve +10
    Perma stat increase: Stamina +10
    New passive stat: 0.001% Less likely to fight over nothing in mid.
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    xxczx's Avatar
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    Dark Falz
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    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 80
    I think most classes keep their AOE ground skills off cooldown, if you're talking about shadow flare, it's more of a DPS loss to recast when the battle has started. Doton is situational.
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    if you're talking about shadow flare, it's more of a DPS loss to recast when the battle has started.
    You may have missed his point.
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    Myon Miya
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    Tonberry
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    Viper Lv 100
    My favourite thing to do is deploy a turret on the outskirts of whatever area we currently hold. Because it's just a turret, you can extend it out way further into areas a person wouldn't be able to safely occupy.

    It forces people to dismount early or risk getting heavied, which greatly slows the momentum of whoever is attacking you. Of course, if you're smart, you'll realize the turret won't actually fire unless it's owner is in combat - but like has been said, you only need a couple of people to be intimidated for it to have done it's job.

    They're great for area control (especially node defense) and intimidation in general, and all that from a stupid throwaway turret.
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    Selli Noblesse
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    Shadowflaring ramps is the best. I've seen so many Ninjas have their Hide canceled because they think they can just walk through Shadowflare without any consequences. XD
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    Dark Falz
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    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    Shadowflaring ramps is the best. I've seen so many Ninjas have their Hide canceled because they think they can just walk through Shadowflare without any consequences. XD
    That's weird, cus I give no fucks to Shadow Flare as NIN and can walk through it with hide just fine.

    As long as the hit is not direct (e.g DoTs) it doesn't mess up hide. I've been bane'd and slept in hide before.
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Grounded aoes are a weird type of DoT, as in they do a direct hit when they tick.

    Where as normal DoT Ticks wont break sleeps/bind/hide, grounded aoes will break sleep/bind/hide.

    Abilities such as Bane and Sleep have no direct hit, so they wont break a sleep/bind/hide.
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    Dark Falz
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    Ground AOEs has never broke my hide. I've walked through Doton while hidden before too
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    Player Houston009's Avatar
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    I suppose it doesn't since it hasn't broken your stealth.
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    Chicks Dig'me
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    Siren
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    Miner Lv 60
    It's not that it will break hide, that is really not what this post is about.
    NOTE: Hide can glitch on detection if the angle of the ground AOE is off.
    (This can be seen as elevation directly affects the utility of the skill "detection" which is ground based and can be avoided by standing on a rock)

    Again the usage is that it is a form of crowd control.
    Doton is a great deterrent as it adds Heavy, but added Shadow Flare layers, Turrets, Flaming Arrow and all of a sudden its not so grand to enter and lose all that health.

    Understanding the game is mapped at x1, y1. you will most likely spend 3-4 seconds moving past a dot earning that -200 hp.
    Add multiple stacks of this and you are assured -1k+ HP passing 5 ground dots under Heavy.
    Add that this will apply to 24+ people should they cross is -24k HP.
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