The Feast and previous den Achievements.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Will they be retro-compatible? If not, please make them so.

Killing people in The Feast, which by all means is probably going to absolutely replace the Den as a more long lasting pvp team pvp mode, Den will probably give its last dying breath, and for many, achievements locked to the Den will become practically unattainable.

[Jim_Berry]

I'm sure people will still do Den. I mean, a million people are missing Map achievement for T3, but people still make attempts to get it.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

People still do Den because its the only team based PvP mode right now. When the Feast comes in, that won`t be the case anymore. Right now queues, outside data-center events, are pretty long to not happening...

[Morningstar1337]

I'm more hoping it will be compatible with the FL achivements, but chances are likely that the feast will have its own set of achievements (plus there is still reddit's Wolves's Den events and the Challenge log)

[Natashio]

If they are not, I don't hate to say this. Any thing in this game where you was not on board when the train was at the station, just forget about it. Den's are still happening but don't expect to get many matches for achievements in before the patch comes.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

If they are not, I don't hate to say this. Any thing in this game where you was not on board when the train was at the station, just forget about it. Den's are still happening but don't expect to get many matches for achievements in before the patch comes.

I know its sad, but for new people for example, or even old people, wanting things like the alpha wolf title, it would be near impossible to achieve if the queues for den become dead, they are already close to 1 hour long outside data center events, which makes it basically a 5.000 hours achievement...

[Culfinrandir]

I know its sad, but for new people for example, or even old people, wanting things like the alpha wolf title, it would be near impossible to achieve if the queues for den become dead, they are already close to 1 hour long outside data center events, which makes it basically a 5.000 hours achievement...

I agree. It would be foolish for them to not include them in things like Challenge Log too as part of the Wolves Den. Otherwise we're going to get a situation where to complete the Log is going to take all of our game time! ;3

[SuperZay]

I'm sure people will not do old Den when a new mode will be released. Just like you'll never ever see 72 man Secure or Slaughter again because everyone is doing Seal Rock, and 24s are already rare in PvP Roulette.
What they can do is to combine Wolf's Den and Feast achievement counters into one. We can farm ADS mount in old and new Frontline modes, why we can't do the same for Ravenous and Alpha Wolf titles?

[Jim_Berry]

Is PvP actually fun now?

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Is PvP actually fun now?

Frontlines have always been fun, tho i say they finally found the formula with seize rock, it has just improved from secure to slaughter to seize. Wolf`s Den is still the same, if you didn`t liked it back then... But this new Feast features some interesting stuff and its profiling as a permanent new pvp mode... Which is why it endangers even more the already barely breathing wolf`s den.