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  1. #81
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    Lebannen's Avatar
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    Lebannen Nox
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    Ragnarok
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    Carpenter Lv 51
    In the live letter im guessing like everyone else.
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  2. #82
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    StateAlchemist's Avatar
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    State Alchemist
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 55
    They already added Curaga and Rebirth to CNJ, what's the point if they are going to make THM a white mage? Wouldn't they have given THM Sacrifice-ga? Or something... As it is atm you don't go around looking for a THM as your main healer. I for one am geared for "end-game" with an enfeebling set of gear and a DD set of gear. Is my Sac III decent? Sure it hits normally for 700~HP and crits up to about 1200HP but CNJ still beats me everytime for heals. Not to mention they have Protect/Shell/Stoneskin/etc... I think of THM in terms of a SCH and I think of CNJ in terms of a RDM as they are at the moment. Well sort of.
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  3. #83
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    Firon Veleth
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I love how people keep saying but CNJ has the elemental in their lore, mostly all spells have some type of element to them even Paralyna etc. Nukes are not the only spells in the game with elements tied to them. That life and death bull shit needs to go, the THM's guild that players join don't give a flying fuck about life, only death so that argument is invalid
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  4. #84
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    SmokeyTheSequel's Avatar
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    Smokey Asura
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    Cactuar
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    Fisher Lv 90
    I havent heard many people mention anything about Unbral and Astral.. Thm's best friend. Lets discuss.
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  5. #85
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    lol.

    Restrictions on 90% of gear wasn't needed. Having the optimal system wasnt a legitimate fault that needed to be fixed. Yoshi just heard some people crying about it and decided that he would ruin the game.

    There's lots of examples like this.

    - lol
    You mean YOU think he ruined the game, I reckon you are in a small minority, he already said that he will be fixing the issue with colour and stats on gear.

    EVERY other MMO in the world requires you to hit a certain level before equiping items, so don't act so /surprised.
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  6. #86
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    Betelgeuzah's Avatar
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    Captain Lalafist
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 82
    As long as low level items don't have so strict requirements all is fine in the kingdom.

    Having to shuffle around gear for all the low level classes because the requirements are so strict is pretty crap. Oh this level 21 beetle earring? Sorry, you are only level 20 and need to earn the right to use it on your 4th job so just go and buy the level 16 bone earrings for one level.
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  7. #87
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    You guys forget that there are more requirements to getting WHM. Obviously you will have to level CNJ and THM to get it. Like you have to level GLA and MRD for Paladin. Could do THM30 CNJ15 as requirement for WHM and have cure spells derive from the CNJ part of the class. The job system derives of mixed classes.
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  8. #88
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    Sephrick Markarius
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I love how people keep saying but CNJ has the elemental in their lore, mostly all spells have some type of element to them even Paralyna etc. Nukes are not the only spells in the game with elements tied to them. That life and death bull shit needs to go, the THM's guild that players join don't give a flying fuck about life, only death so that argument is invalid
    Quite the aggressive post.

    You're correct, all spells do have an elemental association. But nukes are the purest for of said elements one could conjur.

    And cures are Astral magic, one of the two elements Thaumaturges deal with.

    THM lore doesn't focus solely on death. They're not a group of nihilistic emo kids hanging out at the mall. It seems like it focuses on death because of the consideration about their power and the question of if they could resurrect the dead.

    Fact is, it can go either way, which is why Yoshida said we'll know when we see the class changes.
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  9. #89
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    Quite the aggressive post.

    You're correct, all spells do have an elemental association. But nukes are the purest for of said elements one could conjur.

    And cures are Astral magic, one of the two elements Thaumaturges deal with.

    THM lore doesn't focus solely on death. They're not a group of nihilistic emo kids hanging out at the mall. It seems like it focuses on death because of the consideration about their power and the question of if they could resurrect the dead.

    Fact is, it can go either way, which is why Yoshida said we'll know when we see the class changes.
    If people look up what THM's actually are, they are considered "miracle workers". Sounds more like WHM to me.
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  10. #90
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    Bladed Arms
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    If people look up what THM's actually are, they are considered "miracle workers". Sounds more like WHM to me.
    lol once again, in japanese its curse user, dont take the etymology of a translated word to literally.
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