When will we get info on class changes?

[djjdiss]

Player feedback is not going to affect the big picture. We are here to give feedback about the details.

If they can't get it generally right without our help, this game simply isn't going to make it far, with or without 2.0.

It's funny you mention that, because just about everything that has been changed in the game so far has been done so via our requests. I have only seen a small handful of truly original ideas that yoshi's team has thought of on their own without our input.

So yes, we make most of the game for them and the other 15% of it comes from their own creativity or is borrowed from the likes of FFXI and other previous FF titles.

It's kind of nice to know that we control this games destiny in a way, but at the same time that can be a scary thought.

[ellohwell]

Player feedback is not going to affect the big picture. We are here to give feedback about the details.

If they can't get it generally right without our help, this game simply isn't going to make it far, with or without 2.0.

There is no big picture.

They just respond to complaints.

[Jennestia]

There is no big picture.

They just respond to complaints.

Sarcasm aside, the only complaints that are responded to are legitimate issues, i.e interface lag.

[Estellios]

actuaaallly lore wise, if thaum was a whm, it would have to be a fairly evil one, who likes killing as much as raising, so it can kill them again.

Whereas conjurers are your force of life one with the elements nice guys.

Still none of the lore matters, and they could renege on their obvious preference to make con into a whm. Just because 4 months ago they decided con was whm, doesnt mean they wont switch it up for once an all.

Still at this point i find it funny all the mages are pointing at the other guy like, oh yeah hes your whm bro.

If you do the CNJ quests, they are all about being buddy buddy with the elementals because the elementals are gigantic assholes who would murder you bad if you disrupted the forest, so it's not all peace and love.

At this point I don't care which DoM gets which Job but I hope we still are able to nuke/heal while as CNJ. I kinda like the all-around-caster feeling CNJ gets and I think it's more fun and suited to a playstyle I like than straight-up BLM/WHM.

[Overkill9000]

THM has true black magic but also has true white magic as well.

banish, dia .... (w/o researching whm in ffxi... maybe) paralyze. what white magic? i'm not even going to really research this. off the top of my head, cnj has cure, curaga, raise (i know thm has one too but cnj has RAISE), radiance ability (light based), protect, shell, and spells to get rid of ailments. so don't pull the ability card.

according to abilities the only reason cnj would get blm is b/c of elemental nukes. (which is a fairly good enough reason) but thm REALLY doesn't have many whm abilities.

[Bowen]

actuaaallly lore wise, if thaum was a whm, it would have to be a fairly evil one, who likes killing as much as raising, so it can kill them again.

Whereas conjurers are your force of life one with the elements nice guys.

Still none of the lore matters, and they could renege on their obvious preference to make con into a whm. Just because 4 months ago they decided con was whm, doesnt mean they wont switch it up for once an all.

Still at this point i find it funny all the mages are pointing at the other guy like, oh yeah hes your whm bro.

Actually lorewise, it does make sense. THMs deal with Life AND death. In fact, the two Temples in Ul'dah are dedicated to the god Nald'Thal the dual deity of Life and death. One temple (The THM guild) Is the one dedicated to the death part of Nald'Thal while the second is the opposite. The second temple is very White Mage-y actually. Do some of the quests you get from them. You will see what I mean

[Bowen]

actuaaallly lore wise, if thaum was a whm, it would have to be a fairly evil one, who likes killing as much as raising, so it can kill them again.

Whereas conjurers are your force of life one with the elements nice guys.

Still none of the lore matters, and they could renege on their obvious preference to make con into a whm. Just because 4 months ago they decided con was whm, doesnt mean they wont switch it up for once an all.

Still at this point i find it funny all the mages are pointing at the other guy like, oh yeah hes your whm bro.

Also, CNJ are all about the Elementals. I think I read somewhere before about how BLMs would "Invoke the power of the Elementals' rage" or something along those lines. . . So CNJ's Black magic would be weaker than BLM's because well, CNJs kinda 'ask' and 'conjure up' their powers while the BLM would 'Invoke' or 'Force' the Elements' power.

But, that is just what I think anyway. . .

[ellohwell]

Sarcasm aside, the only complaints that are responded to are legitimate issues, i.e interface lag.

lol.

Restrictions on 90% of gear wasn't needed. Having the optimal system wasnt a legitimate fault that needed to be fixed. Yoshi just heard some people crying about it and decided that he would ruin the game.

There's lots of examples like this.

- lol

[Betelgeuzah]

It's funny you mention that, because just about everything that has been changed in the game so far has been done so via our requests. I have only seen a small handful of truly original ideas that yoshi's team has thought of on their own without our input.

Just because every idea may have been mentioned on the some XIV-related forum at some point (because most of the changes are very similar to what other MMO's do) doesn't mean you or me had something to do with them.

Not to mention we can say "plz change stats" but the actual mechanics and math is done by the dev team alone. Which is the hardest part of the design.

[Isaaru]

lol.

Restrictions on 90% of gear wasn't needed. Having the optimal system wasnt a legitimate fault that needed to be fixed. Yoshi just heard some people crying about it and decided that he would ruin the game.

There's lots of examples like this.

- lol

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