Quote Originally Posted by grandm View Post
all this talk "soon after 1.19" its all subjective. what you consider to be soon might not be the same as some1 else. i guess we will hear from them when their good and ready. we can wish for them to rush. but if they rush we will only complain its a rubbish job. they said they want our feedback. and from what i have seen they seem to be doing what they say, so let them ask for our feedback when they are ready.

P.S. they have recently put up a sticky thread for "ask the producer, live letter" so the must getting gearing up for this sooner rather than later
You're correct, time is relative and the perception thereof is entirely subjective.

But still, there's a line when something no longer is in the range of "soon." in this specific case they said they would release the information early enough to receive and consider player feedback. As of mid November, player feedback won't really matter.

While patches can usually be pushed back, 1.20 comes with the preassured of being released soon enough that players have a chance to try it before billing starts. So mid November seems somewhat late for thei two weeks of QA if they're shooting for an early December release.