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    I've never used the 50 LTW. I'd rate the 50 WVR more highly than the 50 ALC, but personal preference is personal preference.

    You *can* take one class only to 60, if you want, leaving the rest where they are. There are two reasons, only one of which was stated (cross class skills) why it is recommended that people take them all up. The other is rarely stated, but can be pretty darn important in and of itself : refined materials. If you take, say, BSM to 50 but leave CRP where it is, you are at the mercy of the Marketboard for not only the non-miner raw materials, but for the refined materials you may need as well, things like the leathers or the lumbers. Depending on the Marketboard, there are times when it is cheaper to buy the refined material, but there are also times when it is cheaper (even factoring in Crystal/shard costs) to get the raw materials and turn them into the refined material you need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    I've never used the 50 LTW. I'd rate the 50 WVR more highly than the 50 ALC, but personal preference is personal preference.
    Waste not II rotation is considered by most to be the most reliable way to do the current 2 star crafts if you aren't a specialist, but that's all I use it for.

    Also, you can easily use the extra CP from Comfort Zone and Tricks to make careful synthesis II completely irrelevant, that's why I didn't rate it as highly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Waste not II rotation is by far the most reliable way to do the current 2 star crafts if you aren't a specialist, but that's all I use it for.

    Also, you can easily use the extra CP from Comfort Zone and Tricks to make careful synthesis II completely irrelevant, that's why I didn't rate it as highly.
    Waste not II is definitely a useful skill, but it's also a double edged sword. There are many cases in which I forgo the use of WN2 in order to come up with a better rotation on the fly. Over-reliance on it can sometimes be detrimental.

    CS2 is useful in that it's more powerful than basic synthesis, possibly allowing me to use tricks of the trade one extra time when using maker's mark/FS (depending on my craftsmanship stat of course). Since it's RNG free, it also can save me 22 CP in some cases.

    I don't consider either to be essential but recommend having them both available if possible. When crafting base 2* materials, I usually have both equipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MN_14 View Post
    Waste not II is definitely a useful skill, but it's also a double edged sword. There are many cases in which I forgo the use of WN2 in order to come up with a better rotation on the fly. Over-reliance on it can sometimes be detrimental.

    CS2 is useful in that it's more powerful than basic synthesis, possibly allowing me to use tricks of the trade one extra time when using maker's mark/FS (depending on my craftsmanship stat of course). Since it's RNG free, it also can save me 22 CP in some cases.

    I don't consider either to be essential but recommend having them both available if possible. When crafting base 2* materials, I usually have both equipped.
    Same, but currently with the rotation I use my blacksmith doesn't have room for it, everything else just feels more important. :/
    So I just use standard synth and make triple sure I have the 15 cp for it.
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