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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
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    Your wildfires don't need to be perfect every time. There is room for error like there is on every other job in the game. I swear you'd think the complaints around this place are made by bleeding-edge raiders who aim for 100% optimal damage.

    Needlessly complex? How do you screw up Wildfire? In fact there are no real special rules to WF besides to use your longer buffs first and to make sure you aren't reapplying hot/lead during it. I'm pretty sure if I was still 9 years old I'd be able to grasp this concept
    at the end of 15 seconds it does part of the damage I did over 15 seconds, so I need to do as much damage as I can in that 15 seconds
    It might be complex relative to other things in the game, but this game is mostly very simple. If that's needlessly complex or complex at all to you, this is not your game. I don't mean that to sound as harsh as it does but I mean come on, NIN Mudras must be rocket science to you. This is exactly what I was talking about when I used the word "diva"
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    Quote Originally Posted by aabe View Post
    It might be complex relative to other things in the game, but this game is mostly very simple. If that's needlessly complex or complex at all to you, this is not your game.
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    As someone with ADHD and inability to adapt I personally cannot stand WM and my already sub-optimal DPS got even worse since this skill was added, it's all SE's fault. I can't even do DPS while moving and I can't move AT ALL with WM up and I'm just a turret. So boring and stupid, SE.
    Just gonna say that you don't have much room to be throwing punches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Just gonna say that you don't have much room to be throwing punches.
    I can't tell if you took the extremely blatant and tryhard sarcasm seriously or if you're legitimately doubting my credibility but either way have a picture of me

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    Quote Originally Posted by aabe View Post
    Your wildfires don't need to be perfect every time. There is room for error like there is on every other job in the game. I swear you'd think the complaints around this place are made by bleeding-edge raiders who aim for 100% optimal damage.

    Needlessly complex? How do you screw up Wildfire? In fact there are no real special rules to WF besides to use your longer buffs first and to make sure you aren't reapplying hot/lead during it. I'm pretty sure if I was still 9 years old I'd be able to grasp this concept
    [I]at the end of 15 seconds it does part of the damage I did over 15 seconds, so I need to do as much damage as I can in that 15 seconds"
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    f SE turned barrage/emp into a charge up skill that depended on 14 seconds of before hand burst you would see an uproar at the nerf. I am not saying remove the mechanic fully but give players the chance to prematurely fire the wildfire blast off during fights with bosses going invuln before wildfire goes off.

    Not sure what you achieve calling me a diva.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
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    If a job that is miles away from needing a nerf got nerfed there would be an uproar? Got me there mane

    You have to keep in mind I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you that MCH can/should have some changes done to make it less of a chore to play. I'm not trying to achieve anything really; the reason I say "diva" is because the vast majority of MCH players I run into that have complaints seem to think their job is the hardest thing ever and you gotta put in SOOOO much more effort than everyone else and still come out subpar in the end and blahblahblah it's really not very difficult to play or complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aabe View Post
    you gotta put in SOOOO much more effort than everyone else and still come out subpar in the end and blahblahblah it's really not very difficult to play or complicated.
    Compared to BRD, it really is. Wildfire is so central to the job's DPS right now that if you botch a wildfire and end up with two mildfires you may as well resign yourself to the toilet the rest of the run. It's a lot more work than BRD for practically identical numbers.

    Also, I know wildfire detonates through the invul on the Rubricatus in CM, does it work on any other bosses that don't jump to clear the debuff?
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    #gitgud

    Ongoing mission: Tank everything on DRG. On purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    It's really not hard to get you as you say. Your arguments are nothing more then temper tantrums.
    Actually my arguments were clearly spelled out on the last page, the only counterargument you've provided is this and a senseless analogy.

    Quote Originally Posted by fm_fenrir View Post
    Compared to BRD, it really is. Wildfire is so central to the job's DPS right now that if you botch a wildfire and end up with two mildfires
    but thats the thing, what do you consider "botching" a wildfire? You messed up and had to reapply dot/buff during? You accidentally forgot to use an off gcd during? You accidentally used it as the boss was about to jump? That's ignoring the fact that said mistakes have equivalents on other jobs, and wildfire doesn't actually contribute all that much to MCH's overall DPS to where making a mistake during it is anywhere near as bad as it's constantly been implied.
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    Last edited by aabe; 02-10-2016 at 05:51 AM.