Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXVII Lore Discussion

[Frederick22]

Nanamo's dead

I will say and i will say it again. Nanamo's survival was kind of spected, behind all that impact and drama, there were lots, LOTS of things that didnt make sence
We also have the city state leader "plot armor "
The most important thing of this, is that, Let you remind all, you guys think the dev team think this overnight? The develop of 2.55 story had long ended, ever before 2.2. On this very moments they are working with the 4.0 story and by the end of 3.3 they will have enought material to show us something, possibly even the teaser video.

[Fenral]

Most Final Fantasy games had the decency to stop after one or two major deaths, for the above reason. The ones that didn't, like II or IV, are also well-regarded as having handled death badly, to the point that FFII's sloppy handling of character deaths was directly called out in FFIX.

[Chewy2nd]

I think killing any of the Scions off would have been a waste, they have so much more to give character wise, exchanging that for a little shock value is pointless in the long run, we will likely see a Scion death at some point, but this isn't it.

[Enkidoh]

Given it's obvious Ipsen's Castle parallels (and that the game is seriously lacking in FFIX references), maybe a remix of Ipsen's Heritage (itself a remix of FFIX's main title theme The Place I'll Return to Someday) is more likely?

I'm more disappointed the Warring Triad battle isn't including a remix of Dancing Mad though. *Sad cat*

[Rocl]

Given it's obvious Ipsen's Castle parallels (and that the game is seriously lacking in FFIX references), maybe a remix of Ipsen's Heritage (itself a remix of FFIX's main title theme The Place I'll Return to Someday) is more likely?

Nine ranks among the few Final Fantasies I've never played, so I was basing my rambling based off:

It was hard coming up with the name for the boss inside this tower. A boss from a previous FF title can be found inside this tower, and we had to figure out how we’ll bring them together. This was because the previous title was made before the Localization team was created, and there wasn’t any uniformity in translation. The Localization team was created 15 years ago, and since then we have been trying to keep it uniform.

For example, Typhon comes from mythology but in previous FF title it was called Chupon. This is essentially wrong, but we didn’t know if we should go with Chupon to prioritize memories, or to change it to the official name. In FFXIV it’s named Typhon.

I have absolutely no frame of refence for the Ipsen/Memoria parallels :S

And the obvious two sets of dolls we see before the Antitower fades out @ http://www.twitch.tv/finalfantasyxiv...96?t=01h21m45s is what lead me to Calcabrina; combined with Ferne's bit about the localization

I'm more disappointed the Warring Triad battle isn't including a remix of Dancing Mad though. *Sad cat*

While I wouldn't say no to Dancing Mad eventually appearing in FFXIV-- they did pick the correct track for the homage to the Triad fights! It's the same that plays when you fight them in VI within Kefka's Tower!

[Kotemon]

(and that the game is seriously lacking in FFIX references)

Considering that slide had a Warrior and Black mage mammet for the Antitower image. I'm hoping that if there has to be any real nod to FFIX. Vivi Ornitier would be the most likely since he is artificial and can pass as a Lalafel size mammet in Black Mage attire.

Otherwise I had to go wiki Ipsen's castle because I don't want to search for my ps or ps2. Likely if there are three bosses, Tharaka and Calcabrina (by the doll line up at the end) are two likely possibilities.

While not an exact replica, Ipsen's castle was part of a failed attempt to merge two planets together. Hence the strange physics and the fact Top and bottom halves mirror each other thus the upside down inverted sections.
Given how pretty the game was back then I'm wondering if the so called HD release for PC will look off with HD textures with old-rez characters running around.

[Enkidoh]

Ipsen's Castle was a dungeon in FFIX which... looked like a mirror image of itself. It started out normal but halfway through things turned... weird. The bottom half was a mirror reflection of itself that was upside down, literally. And connected to that was a unique mechanic where suddenly enemies became... extremely hard to kill. This was because the aforementioned mechanic made it that your strongest gear suddenly became weak, and vice versa, it literally reversed the levels and stats for gear, so level 1 gear ironically became the strongest in that dungeon. Luckily level 1 equipment was scattered around the dungeon in treasure chests for those players who had long since disposed of their original starting gear.

Because of this, the parallels with the upcoming 'Antitower' are quite pronounced, hence how I think that aforementioned music track would be a nice reference to it.

As for Dancing Mad that's not quite correct - the entire track of Dancing Mad consists of four separate tiers, each tier changing as you defeated each member of the Triad in turn before finally ending up against Kefka. So I guess you are right, from a certain point of view... but as I listen to the whole piece usually I associate all four tiers as the one track (rather than regarding each tier/fight separately). But I digress...

[Rocl]

As for Dancing Mad that's not quite correct - the entire track of Dancing Mad consists of four separate tiers, each tier changing as you defeated each member of the Triad in turn before finally ending up against Kefka. So I guess you are right, from a certain point of view... but as I listen to the whole piece usually I associate all four tiers as the one track (rather than regarding each tier/fight separately). But I digress...

Au contraire mon ami! You fight the Warring Triad individually BEFORE the Statue of the Gods fight & Kefka.
You seem to be conflating the Statue of the Gods and the Warring Triad, which it definitely feels like there are parallels (hell, we might even go Fiend > Demon > Goddess in XIV which would support the idea of Statue of the Gods being a rematch)

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/G...nal_Fantasy_VI)
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/F...nal_Fantasy_VI)
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/D...nal_Fantasy_VI)

And a youtube for good measure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GYClcIhlqc

These individual fights against the Triad within the tower, as you can hear, use the theme present in the Containment Bay S1T7 shown off in the Live Letter. (Which is also used for our friend Atma/Ultima Weapon on the Floating Continent)

[CyrilLucifer]

Opinion time: I'm of mind Dancing Mad is one of the weaker boss battle themes in VI, not bad, just weaker, so I'm extremely pleased they went with Battle to the Death, which is my second favorite.

Dancing Mad is more an elaborate Kefka's theme. It shouldn't really be played with the Triad members individually.

[Theodric]

The mistake many people make - including quite a few writers - is believing that most character deaths are for 'shock value'. They're not - and quite a lot of people simply cry foul just because they happen to like a character and never, ever want to see them die. This is dangerous, however, since it quite easily leads to stagnation. When you have the same characters showing up to save the day frequently whilst remaining largely unscathed then there reaches a point where you know they're never going to truly be harmed and that every antagonist they cross paths with is going to fall before them.

Estinien is one of my favourite characters. I think he's pretty interesting, cool, and I love a good tale of someone falling prey to that which they seek to do battle with. He may or may not survive - we'll have to see - but if's he's redeemed, I hope it's done tastefully. If he dies, again, I hope it's done tastefully. Yet either option has the potential to be great for the story. The same applies to the Scions. They don't need to die for the sake of dying yet nor do they need to stick around for the sake of sticking around.