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  1. #81
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Doesn't work that way, Defiance increases HP - not VIT. They're also trying to avoid the possibility of solo tanking as heavily as possible now so we aren't going to see any T5/T9 solo tank shenanigans in the future most likely.
    She's talking about, higher health pools being able to help sustain Survival while still dealing hefty DPS, as wars currently do.
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  2. #82
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    Mini Tyra
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    But you're talking about it and potentially giving people false impressions anyway. Okay. >.>
    Contradictory, maybe. That's what all jobs will eventually see anyway due to power creep. Even if it's "missleading" now, well see similar values in 3.4. Maybe 3.2 if they wreck power creep even more
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  3. #83
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    Xyasreau Borlaaq
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    She's talking about, higher health pools being able to help sustain Survival while still dealing hefty DPS, as wars currently do.
    I'm confused about why WARs are specifically pointed out here. Is this in regard to their tank stance Defiance? Because Shield Oath and Grit effectively do the same thing, and a bit better I might add due to 25%HP+20%RHeal =/= 20%DR. (Hint: Received Healing needs to be 25% to be equivalent, the disparity is supposively made up by the self heals WAR possessesesesessssesesesssssssssssssssssssssssssss).

    WARs are probably the most squishiest in their DPS tank stance compared to PLD and DRK in their specialized setting(and DPS stance if anyone needs the clarity).
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  4. #84
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    This probably removes all choice from gear and you will no longer change accessories to adapt to the situation. It's what I expect from the XIV battle team but I'm still disappointed.
    Assuming Strength vs Vitality as it is now is an interesting choice.

    Hah.
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  5. #85
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I like many saw this coming. My tank "friends" and I all argued this back and forth. I as of now have my whole VIT set bought and treated in my retainer while as of today the tanks I know are losing thier minds about this and how they have to grind like the wind. I feel so much like the story the Ant and the Grasshopper.
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  6. #86
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    Praesul Presul
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    I like many saw this coming. My tank "friends" and I all argued this back and forth. I as of now have my whole VIT set bought and treated in my retainer while as of today the tanks I know are losing thier minds about this and how they have to grind like the wind. I feel so much like the story the Ant and the Grasshopper.
    Grind like the wind for what reason? There's been plenty of time to acquire multiple sets of eso gear. I have a complete collection of gordian/eso slaying accessories and still had eso to spare for more things. Hell, the eso cap is being removed anyway so....What?

    That and Midas is being released and with new accessories too on top of the uncapped eso things. A good tank should have VIT and STR sets already ANYWAY. I used crafted accessories early on and still rolled on as much vit AND str stuff as I could lol.

    There's no excuse.
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  7. #87
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 99
    Been thinking about this upcoming change. With tanks prioritizing Vitality, and inflating their health pools, won't that mean that mobs, adds, and bosses will need to be buffed accordingly to keep the gameplay challenging?
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  8. #88
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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Been thinking about this upcoming change. With tanks prioritizing Vitality, and inflating their health pools, won't that mean that mobs, adds, and bosses will need to be buffed accordingly to keep the gameplay challenging?
    After all the pissing and moaning about Gordias, and then these changes, I fully expect the bosses in Midas to hit like freight trains. Kinda exciting really.
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  9. #89
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Praesul View Post
    Grind like the wind for what reason? There's been plenty of time to acquire multiple sets of eso gear. I have a complete collection of gordian/eso slaying accessories and still had eso to spare for more things. Hell, the eso cap is being removed anyway so....What?

    That and Midas is being released and with new accessories too on top of the uncapped eso things. A good tank should have VIT and STR sets already ANYWAY. I used crafted accessories early on and still rolled on as much vit AND str stuff as I could lol.

    There's no excuse.
    I'm not even a raid tank and have a full vit and str set.
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  10. #90
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    Makasita Fenrir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    I bought three 210 fending accessories tonight. I'll have a complete set next week. That's what happens when eso is completely pointless for three of your 60s.

    Also, my guess for VIT/STR: SE chose a target attack power value for a given ilvl, and made sure that didn't change if you stacked VIT like they wanted you to. In that scenario, VIT contributes most of your AP, and STR makes the last bit to hit the number SE expects; if you're looking at, say, 1000AP right now, I wouldn't expect that number to change if you re-spec for VIT and stack fending accessories.
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    #gitgud

    Ongoing mission: Tank everything on DRG. On purpose.

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