VIT will scale with attack power, STR will scale but not as much

[Pinkie_Pie]

Job Adjustments Part I

We will be changing the method for calculating the potency of physical attacks for tank roles in Patch 3.2. We’ll be making it so vitality affects the potency of physical attacks, and as a result the effect of strength on physical attack potency will be reduced.

From Patch 3.2 onwards, you’ll be safe using only vitality accessories as well as allocating everything to vitality as a tank. For everyone who is currently using strength accessories on their tanks, the damage will be lowered, so please prepare your vitality accessories ahead of time.

SEE, this is why I didn't 210 all my str accessories. Not gonna lie, I'm super glad to go full VIT tank and not get bashed on for doing so

[Brannigan]

Having to change gear at all was needlessly complicated. Compared to the other roles, why were Tanks the only ones stuck having to mix and match between upgrades and outdated melded accessories in order to excel? You have to admit, that was dumb, right?

Gear options are good. The problem is the purely defense option was poorly implemented. If anything, they should have fixed defensive accessories and then added more options for DPS and healers (though back in 2.0 before DPS checks were so ridiculous, both could get away with VIT melded accessories to add a survival cushion). Melds are a good thing if only to justify the entire existence of main stat materia. Healers sometimes meld accuracy, but no one is out there gathering up INT materia.

I also disagree that it was needlessly complicated. It's simple. I need more HP so I will put on more vitality. I am in little danger so I'll wear more strength. Getting the items is maybe more complicated than it should be, but this game is starved of things to do anyway so I don't see that as much of a problem.

And let's face it, our choice of gear wasnt really THAT much of a choice - it was strength all the way unless healers whined.

On trivial content, sure. Some stuff actually does hit hard enough to warrant some vitality on your gear if you're just going for the clear and don't care to attempt any speed records. Everyone likes to fap over their full STR parses but at crunch time it's usually melds that are leading the way because the VIT from your upgraded left side lets you play with the slaying right. The point is, though, that this is a change in the wrong direction. There were few choices before - now there are none.

SEE, this is why I didn't 210 all my str accessories. Not gonna lie, I'm super glad to go full VIT tank and not get bashed on for doing so

Counting this week, you still have *five* resets to get whatever from A1S/Void Ark/Tomestones before the patch comes out. This is assuming they're not all instantly outdated by something that's easily accessible and can have a STR materia dropped in it.

[Lyth]

Instead of debating gear choices, we will be debating stance choices. Tank decision-making will always be subject to scrutiny; everyone wants to drive from the passenger seat.

[Khemorex]

best update ever!

[Marxam]

i wonder if vit stacking will make war even better at mt due to its ehp with Defiance. However I doubt full vit will be the way to go as they said that the effect of strength on physical attack potency will be reduced but didn't say anything to confirm that it will no longer scale with str. I do welcome this change as the ring slots can finally have both fending and slaying. The other 3 slots we will have to experiment to find the true ratio of vit:str sclaing.

[Pinkie_Pie]

i wonder if vit stacking will make war even better at mt due to its ehp with Defiance. However I doubt full vit will be the way to go as they said that the effect of strength on physical attack potency will be reduced but didn't say anything to confirm that it will no longer scale with str. I do welcome this change as the ring slots can finally have both fending and slaying. The other 3 slots we will have to experiment to find the true ratio of vit:str sclaing.

Say good bye to BIG Equilibrium self healing numbers since it goes based off str, not vit.

[Brannigan]

It's based off of attack power which VIT will probably just add to.

[Bobkitty]

Say good bye to BIG Equilibrium self healing numbers since it goes based off str, not vit.

Wrong. It's based off AP, otherwise Berserk would have no effect on it.

[Crater]

I can understand the disappointment, but bear in mind we're the only job that ever had any choice in the first place. You didn't see Dragoons swapping between Crit and SkS sets based on encounters, or Monks having Vit for one fight or Str for another. Every other class got away with one gear set for ALL content. They don't seem to like choice or personal preference in classes in FF.

This isn't really true, historically. in Savage SCoB and early FCoB, it was pretty common to see DPS/Healers foregoing 20 iLevels of their main stat in their accessories, and using i90 VIT+Main melds in place of the i110 Soldiery/High Allagan that offered the most DPS/strongest healing.Just as tanks in Gordias tended to favour i150 melded at the beginning of the raid tier and gradually transition to full STR, people would take the VIT on melded accessories for survivability and only gradually switch to actual DEX/INT/STR/MND gear as their left-side gave them an HP buffer. Even after being geared up, it wasn't at all uncommon to see healers (mainly Scholars, but a few White Mages) wearing several melded pieces to bring them to the accuracy cap.

The only reason that gearing choices never really emerged in 3.0/3.1 is that the exceptionally high DPS checks in Gordias forced DPS and healers to really maximize offense for the first several months, and the exceptionally low iLevel on crafted accessories meant that the tradeoff of losing your main stat to gain extra VIT was too great a loss for too little gain, except on tanks.


You're right that they don't seem to like giving people choices, but the choices were there, and they were viable until 3.0, for all roles. I felt that the game was poorer for not really having those viable choices on DPS/Healers in Heavensward, and I think it will probably be poorer for doing away with this last little bastion of customizability. But I guess there's not much to be done about it at this point.

[Tyrio86]

War fell cleave will be nerfed from 500 potency to 300. Wich will pretty much render war useless in the dps/ot station. Pld will go back to beeing the main tanks, drk will be the New off tank. And war will not be used in good gruops anymore.