The trinity, party responsibility, and how to try and improve the game from within

[KaitlanKela]

It would only remain a blind system for so long. Someone would inevitably math out what the magic break point would be between a bonus and a punishment, and people would strive to replicate it. In addition, 3.X dungeons can't be undersized, so for law farming, it would still remain a concern.

I must say that you are very good at finding abuses. Maybe you should design systems. No sarcasm.

Hmm...What about if the bonus could only be received if the instance was finished with all four players alive? Or if bonus couldn't be received if any party member died more than x times? Basically make it to where eam members dying is disincentivized.

I still think there's something to be said for the efficiency issue. For any grinded item like tomes, efficiency is king. If it's slower to kill off the DDs than it is to cooperate with them, the behavior will select against itself.

[Jim_Berry]

I must say that you are very good at finding abuses. Maybe you should design systems. No sarcasm.

Hmm...What about if the bonus could only be received if the instance was finished with all four players alive? Or if bonus couldn't be received if any party member died more than x times? Basically make it to where eam members dying is disincentivized.

I still think there's something to be said for the efficiency issue. For any grinded item like tomes, efficiency is king. If it's slower to kill off the DDs than it is to cooperate with them, the behavior will select against itself.

Nah, don't like this. During the Zodiac weapon runs, if you were dead when the boss died, you get no credit. Imagine if you died because the healer was focusing too much on DD'ing, or as a DPS, you lagged and didn't move out the AoE. Then, they healer raised you and you died again after you got up. Or you died, and the healer didn't have enough MP to raise you while the DPS people continued to beat down the boss....