Is it possible to fit 3 step mudra completely between GCDs?

[pushin_tin]

I'm using WTFast and still end up clipping the GCD by about a quarter second. Is this inevitable, or should I simply not consider playing NIN at 60?

[Kabooa]

The amount of DPS you lose via a slight GCD clip is not worth quitting a class over.

Ninja at 60 use an ability they get earlier (Armor crush) to refresh huton, meaning you're only doing 1 3-mudra ninjutsu every 60 or so seconds for Suiton. Otherwise you're doubling up on Raiton, which is a 2-mudra and should be easily done without clipping.

[Jim_Berry]

The amount of DPS you lose via a slight GCD clip is not worth quitting a class over.

Ninja at 60 use an ability they get earlier (Armor crush) to refresh huton, meaning you're only doing 1 3-mudra ninjutsu every 60 or so seconds for Suiton. Otherwise you're doubling up on Raiton, which is a 2-mudra and should be easily done without clipping.

...unless you're using Kass+Doton

[UBERHAXED]

...unless you're using Kass+Doton

Why would you ever use Doton over Raiton?

[Alahra]

Why would you ever use Doton over Raiton?

If you have 2 targets that will live for 24 seconds, Doton is better. At 3 targets, Doton needs 15 seconds to be better, and at 4-5 targets, it needs 12 seconds to be better.

[UBERHAXED]

If you have 2 targets that will live for 24 seconds, Doton is better. At 3 targets, Doton needs 15 seconds to be better, and at 4-5 targets, it needs 12 seconds to be better.

Was talking about fights that dps matter, like in raids...

[Jim_Berry]

Why would you ever use Doton over Raiton?

I'm late, but... I like that Kass can crit on each of Doton's tick.

[UBERHAXED]

I'm late, but... I like that Kass can crit on each of Doton's tick.

But you turned 240 potency into 360. Raiton does that without the critical, without requiring the boss stays in the whole time, or lives the duration of the dot.

[UBERHAXED]

You're going to clip regardless. You activate a skill on GCD, you wait for animation of skill (could be .5 seconds) and now you have (assuming 2.0 GCD) 1.5 seconds to get in 3 mudras and activation button. Even in the best case (no animation delay, which is never) you have to have .4 delay between each skill to reach the next GCD without clipping.

[Ephier]

You will always clip with 3 step mudras regardless of ping if you have huton up, maybe even without. Your only concern should be if you are severely clipping raiton and even then, just shuriken.