Required Class/Rank failed - Can we have Optimal Rank and Favoured Class back?

[RemVye]

Sure, it's possible that some people would, though I think it would be a pretty small minority.



This is the "I don't want to see dumb people" argument, and while I hear that concern (when it comes to parties), restrictions just hide the fact that they don't understand the needs of their class. That is, any GLA who would wear mage gear in a party is probably not going to benefit your party, even if you dress them up like a GLA. And as you say:



It's possible that people do this because they can't afford/find newer gear, but to your more pertinent point about wearing gear of other classes, you can do this with the old gear. So how often have you seen a GLA in THM gear? When people are primarily concerned with aesthetics, they're usually not partying. If they are, do what you do with the people who wear level 25 gear as a level 42.



I can't prove wrong your speculation, of course, but I disagree. I think if someone sees that a piece of gear "suits" only GLA, and they get no benefit from it as a THM, it will be rather clear.



If it's easier for you to have a real reason, then fine, go with that. But once again, my real argument is that it simply doesn't matter why you'd do it. There's no gameplay reason for a level 50 to equip level 1 gear, but they are free to do it.

Yeah I hear you... I guess as long as it doesn't affect me it shouldn't matter. If they made it so all gear gave zero stats, including defense and bonus stats, then I would be fine with that. But I still think that will just open the can of worms for people to argue for the items to have stats even if it doesn't favor their class.

And probably mostly a balance thing as well. It might be too strong to have every great piece of +attack or +str gear on the same class (just an example). Zero'ing out the stats would prevent this, but I still think I prefer having required geared.

I understand your argument and respect your position. Thanks for explaining.

[AamesxDavid]

But I still think that will just open the can of worms for people to argue for the items to have stats even if it doesn't favor their class.

Yeah, there probably would be a good amount of that.. but I think it's hard to say right now. Most of the (real) issues with the optimal system seem to stem from the confusion over whether a piece of gear works better than another - and it's a totally legitimate complaint, because it is confusing, and it does affect gameplay. With that cleared up, I think it'll make any complaints about what isn't favored far less legitimate, and I'll be the one "Like"ing the posts saying "stop complaining".

Anyway, thanks for being one of the few who actually seem to listen.