Required Class/Rank failed - Can we have Optimal Rank and Favoured Class back?

[ellohwell]

it also rendered moot the existence of vast majority of the equipments

it's amazing and easy for end users like you, but economically speaking, it's horrible for just about everyone

We never got to see if the optimal/favoured system would function economically with properly scaling stats and an informative interface, so your point is what was "rendered moot", not the system itself. Sorry.

[Aenarion]

We never got to see if the optimal/favoured system would function economically with properly scaling stats and an informative interface, so your point is what was "rendered moot", not the system itself. Sorry.

your point is rendered moot by your apparent inability to check your attributes page to see the effect of the scaling pre-1.19

and frankly, the only "proper scaling stat" that wouldn't be harmful economically would be just as harsh as the required-lvl system, which leaves you with pretty much only aesthetics to argue for.

[ellohwell]

your point is rendered moot by your apparent inability to check your attributes page to see the effect of the scaling pre-1.19

and frankly, the only "proper scaling stat" that wouldn't be harmful economically would be just as harsh as the required-lvl system, which leaves you with pretty much only aesthetics to argue for.

Wow, so you're saying it's possible to get all the same benefits of the restrictive system with an optimal system but with more aesthetic flexibility too. And you hate the system why?

[Aenarion]

Wow, so you're saying it's possible to get all the same benefits of the restrictive system with an optimal system but with more aesthetic flexibility too. And you hate the system why?

I don't recall saying I hate the optimal system, so don't try putting words in my mouth, thank you very much.

I'm just calling it as I see it, which is the difference between the old and the new system.

I actually had to carry less gears around for my jobs with the optimal system, but it doesn't really affect me all that much as I use macros to switch jobs and gear at the same time.

[ellohwell]

I don't recall saying I hate the optimal system, so don't try putting words in my mouth, thank you very much.

I'm just calling it as I see it, which is the difference between the old and the new system.

I actually had to carry less gears around for my jobs with the optimal system, but it doesn't really affect me all that much as I use macros to switch jobs and gear at the same time.

I don't care what you think you said. The point is: if Optimal system is the best of both worlds, then they should keep it. It also remains to be seen whether it failed, because it was never given a chance to fail.

And not everyone has time to set 1293234 macros for all their classes and replace each text command with a new item of gear everytime they buy a new piece of gear or need to replace their gear for materia-grinding.

What a chore. Who cares about language-specific servers, give me a server with optimal/favoured system, and I will gladly put up with japanese people excluding me.

[Aenarion]

I don't care what you think you said.

translation: hai guiz, i iz ignorant trollz

also, it's not what I "think" i said, it IS what I said, the only "think" here is being done (or not) in your head

[ellohwell]

translation: hai guiz, i iz ignorant trollz

also, it's not what I "think" i said, it IS what I said, the only "think" here is being done (or not) in your head

if you're going to say the optimal system is "horrible for everyone", then perhaps you can excuse people for thinking you hate it. Even if you don't explicitly hate the thing you call "horrible for everyone", implicit in that vernacular is that you do. So if you don't want people to accuse you of thinking things you don't actually believe, then my suggestion would be to actually tell people what you believe instead of confusing them by saying the opposite of what you believe.

This is a forum for expressing opinions. Saying things like "this would suck... oh but I don't hate it btw" isn't exactly communication. it's just confusion.

But I grow tired of teaching you how to communicate. So just drop it and try to actually discuss the thing at hand, rather than saying it's horrible and then reneging on your statement, if you're able to do that, that is.