Issue with double standards with Se and defining between dps and support.

[Kelevra]

Ballad/Paeon effects everyone in range, so you can't really compare that level of utility to Goad.

Foe's doesn't have a damage penalty.

How big of an issue is Ballad/Paeon as a DPS decrease?

Utility is utility and smart preemptive uses of Goad can put it on the same lvl as Paeon, if not better.

I didn't say anything about Foe's in the other post, cause it doesn't have a dmg penalty as you pointed out. But you know what else, it also doesn't benefit a Bard's own Windbite and Flaming Arrow either. Whereas the other physical dps all have utility (Disembowel, Dragon Kick, Dancing Edge) that properly buff some of the moves in there own arsenal while benefiting select other jobs as well.

And Ballad is still needed, even with the cool mp tools introduced to healers with the expansion. Cuz you know, now a days, u have one that likes to stay cleric n dps and leave the other to solo heal. And sometimes, solo healing can burn the mp pretty quick (even with stuff like Assize, Ewer cards, etc)...let alone someone actually dying like u said. Which in turn, can suck pretty hard for a Bard's dmg output.