Post Your Tanking Horror Stories!

[HoodRat]

First of all, was this really necessary? You just contributed nothing to the discussion. In an attempt to make an arbitrary judgment on another player, you then hurled a baseless insult, without any attempt at correcting the issues that person may have had with their gameplay. If someone is performing poorly, rather than just insulting and dismissing them, maybe try helping them. This isn't like WoW where people will bite your head off for offering advice, and if you do it respectfully, you may even make a friend or two out of it. But doing something like this? Calling someone bad for no reason and without justification? You're contributing to the growing toxicity of the community. And that is not okay.

Oh I'm sorry, I must have confused you for the other Jpec07. Y'know, the one who claims you can't do the new dungeons in less than 20 minutes and that people need to suck it up when they get slow runs in df because all they do is waste their time dancing in Idyllshire.

And if you think people take constructive criticism or advice, let me point you to this hilarious thread here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ity-about-jobs
People like that are very common, but rarely do they actually make threads about it. They are pretty funny though.

[Jpec07]

So as to not veer off topic too far, I've got another one: being asked to take adds in Steps of Faith as a DRK (when the other tank is a PLD who volunteered for cannons right off the bat).

Oh I'm sorry, I must have confused you for the other Jpec07. Y'know, the one who claims you can't do the new dungeons in less than 20 minutes and that people need to suck it up when they get slow runs in df because all they do is waste their time dancing in Idyllshire.

Okay, so tell me: what are you doing with your time that is so important that you can't take an extra 5-10 minutes in a dungeon? Or in the case of this (hypothetical?) Warrior, an extra ten seconds to ask for bigger pulls? And I can't imagine doing those dungeons in less than 20 minutes unless everyone is above iLvl 200, your group is pre-made, you have at least a SMN or BLM, and you're not a PLD (oops, guess I'm disqualified).

It's a game. You're not being tracked for productivity. There is no quota for how much content you have to do a night. People are so obsessed with getting through the content at light speed; why? What point is there to doing that? And what offense is there in someone who doesn't run it as fast as you want it? "They're wasting my precious time!" That you would then spend...doing what, exactly? What is so important for you to be doing as to need to insult people who don't cater to your every whim?

And if you think people take constructive criticism or advice, let me point you to this hilarious thread here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ity-about-jobs
People like that are very common, but rarely do they actually make threads about it. They are pretty funny though.

My experience with new players has always been the opposite. If I ever see someone not doing something right, I'll ask if they want some advice, and usually they are extremely grateful. If you treat them with respect and remember that you were a n00b once yourself, chances are they'll be a lot more receptive to what you have to say. I've never had negative reception when I did that, and once or twice have actually had them teach me something I hadn't known about the job.

[Awful]

My previous tanking horror story was doing Pharos HM where it was a 50 min run with a blm, a smn, and a Sch. The Scholar baned more than the summoner and the blm was an ice mage when I tried to explain their abilities they got defensive (even though I wasn't trying to attack them just pointing out their rotations). They responded with "we're both friends we won't hesitate to kick you" the Sch and I just rolled our eyes and said whatever. They both attacked 2nd boss with the static buff on him ignoring adds and getting stunned over and over and dying because of his Drill line move.

All in all was the most draining dungeon I have had in all of HW almost an hour of just beating my head off my desk while I think to myself it'll be over soon.

You must be pretty bad then.

Honestly it's DPS that make these runs really bad and unwanted if you have 2 DPS that are overgeared for the content with ilvl 200-210 weapons with average ilvls of 206-210, you should be wrecking things. Especially if you're a tank who knows their class by getting out of tank stance, DPSing with the DPS making the run significantly shorter. It's sad when I can out damage a DPS while i'm a tank...I hope the 3.2 changes are positive for tanks and that we can continue choosing how we do these runs.

Sorry for the paragraph of text /end rant.

[whiskeybravo]

This isn't particularly a horror story for myself, but I'm sure the group was thinking "wtf is this war doing.."

Was trying to get some gordian lens for bard headpiece and precision pieces for relic, so I q'd up for A3 normal mode as a war, thinking it would be faster than dps. We are going through the fight and I realize I didn't quite remember the order of all the mechanics, so basically I wasn't stacking up for handslaps. Several people died on the 2 phases cuz I guess other people weren't stacking either. I did the provoke part right at least :P Piston add phase I accidentally grabbed a tether (I know tanks are supposed to do this) but I wasn't thinking about it and just happened that the tether person basically ran into me. I go back to the edge and mind my own business waiting for the hit when the healer somehow got pushed into me and took it off. Of course they blame me for giving it to them since it wasn't like I was worried about the other mechanics so far lol. Whatever. We get to last phase, I know traditionally the tanks are supposed to swap at like 4 stacks, but I figured he could handle it. And he did, all the way up to 7 stacks, I was like wow I guess he does have it. Then the 8th hit wiped him out. It was kinda funny. They probably thought I wasn't paying attention, but I really was watching the stacks add up to see how much he could take. Oh well, now I know. Provoked and finished it off with some Fell Cleaves. Yus. Hello top deeps

No lens tho

[Fredco191]

I.... don't have one... *walking away* man...

[Instrumentality]

My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.

[HoodRat]

A couple months ago I queued for A3 with 4 friends. As chance would have it, 2 of the 3 randoms we got were from the same server as us. One of whom I will simply call Derpgoon. The other random was a drk. Anyway, the duty starts and the drk throws on grit and pulls the first group of adds. Apparently Derpgoon wanted more so he pulled all the other mobs and proceeded to die. We kill all those and make it to Living Liquid. Drk pulls in grit and whabam I get aggro in deliverance, with the drk eventually getting it back by spamming power slash. We end up wiping from something stupid that I don't remember. The next 4 pulls pretty much go exactly the same as this, except 2 wipes are from me grabbing a tether and continuing to attack the weak mobs and someone runs by, grabs the tether off me and runs it to the healers killing them. At this point, the drk tries to blame me and Derpgoon says I'm the worst tank on his server because he cleared A2S (not quite sure how that makes sense but whatever). I say someone keeps taking the tether off me and Derpgoon says I need to stop attacking adds because tank dps doesn't matter. One of my friends pastes the parse of the last pull in party chat and I'm at the top with a less geared and experienced drg above Derpgoon, who then remains quiet for the rest of the run. The drk pulls again and, you guessed it, I take aggro. Drk accuses me of intentionally provoking off him and he just runs in the electric stuff and dies and tells everyone to wipe. So they wipe and we vote abandon. Afterwards, Derpgoon sends me a friend request for some reason which we all laugh about.

[whiskeybravo]

Gotta say Jspec has the right of it here. Expert runs on average are 20-25 mins with a decent group. I haven't done a lv60 roulette since the last patch, so maybe those are faster now but before with a great group it was around 15-20 mins.

He didn't claim you couldn't do them in less time, of course with really good dps it can be a bit faster. "as short as maybe 20 minutes on a good day"

20 mins for a DF expert (with a completely DF group) is an above average clear speed in my own personal experience.

No justification for ad-hominem attacks

[AI_wass]

Gotta say Jspec has the right of it here. Expert runs on average are 20-25 mins with a decent group. I haven't done a lv60 roulette since the last patch, so maybe those are faster now but before with a great group it was around 15-20 mins.

He didn't claim you couldn't do them in less time, of course with really good dps it can be a bit faster. "as short as maybe 20 minutes on a good day"

20 mins for a DF expert (with a completely DF group) is an above average clear speed in my own personal experience.

No justification for ad-hominem attacks

I just had a 17-minute Arboretum DF with a BRD, a MNK, and a SCH. This isn't exactly uncommon for me.

[Brian_]

Gotta say Jspec has the right of it here. Expert runs on average are 20-25 mins with a decent group. I haven't done a lv60 roulette since the last patch, so maybe those are faster now but before with a great group it was around 15-20 mins.

He didn't claim you couldn't do them in less time, of course with really good dps it can be a bit faster. "as short as maybe 20 minutes on a good day"

20 mins for a DF expert (with a completely DF group) is an above average clear speed in my own personal experience.

No justification for ad-hominem attacks

It's not in my experience. Even then, 20 minutes is definitely not a good day. A good day is like 14~17 minutes. 20~22 minutes is pretty average. Anything more and there were probably some issues like a wipe.

Your standards for group performance are just low. Fractaal and Neverreap 16-20 minutes = great? Back when they were the EX roulette 14-16 minute DF runs were great. 18-20 were pretty average. These days, a great 60 roulette group can clear in ~12 minutes.

I don't really care much for the e-peen measuring and the differences in clear speeds don't matter much but for the sake of community quality, can we stop sugar coating sub-par play to make people feel better about themselves? You don't improve unless you have the proper perspective. If you're bad, you're bad. Nothing wrong with that unless you don't know it or refuse to acknowledge it.

Even the excuse of falling back on PLD. PLD is perfectly fine and is actually better in ways than WAR and DRK. You lose like 200-300 DPS for the entire run which your healer can kind of make up for since you will get 2 HG activations on probably 2 of the largest pulls in the dungeon.